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That's what i asked to myself since the week before of the F12020 release. I mean, in almost all the games, when you use driving assists you normally lose some pace, you're a bit slower because the game is helping you to not lose the control of the car (Fe. Project cars, Assetto Corsa, Gran Turismo, Forza Motorsport or Horizon...). In this game, I always have to use the assists on multiplayer, anti block and medium TC because you are FASTER than when you don't use it. This is really frustrating, seeing people who is already very fast using assists to be even faster. In the other games usually is "harder control of the car is faster pace", but in this game is "the easier, the faster".

Yesterday played some laps around Austria in time trial. 1.04.6 without assists, while a friend, who never used assists and our times were almost equal, gets a 1.03.9 with TC and antiblock.

They should nerf the assists?

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I completly agree to this. People should use assists to get used to a game. But how is it possible, that drivers, who use assists are faster, than drivers who didnt use assists.

Some of my friends are really good in driving without ABS, but they activate it, because it is just faster.

This should be really fixed. Driving without assists should be a lot faster.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, ReMa25 said:

I completly agree to this. People should use assists to get used to a game. But how is it possible, that drivers, who use assists are faster, than drivers who didnt use assists.

Some of my friends are really good in driving without ABS, but they activate it, because it is just faster.

This should be really fixed. Driving without assists should be a lot faster.

I'm in a 4fun torunament with some people we met during lockdown in Spain in F1 2019. Now we are preparing for another one in F1 2020, and we are discussing in discord how tf someone is faster with TC and antiblock and someone is even faster with those and using a controller. I mean, codies is killing the simulation of their game in multiplayer.

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Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, AdrianShadok said:

I'm in a 4fun torunament with some people we met during lockdown in Spain in F1 2019. Now we are preparing for another one in F1 2020, and we are discussing in discord how tf someone is faster with TC and antiblock and someone is even faster with those and using a controller. I mean, codies is killing the simulation of their game in multiplayer.

The assist being faster is a simracing trend. Arcade genre never had them in the past, while simulator had those since it existed.

 

Here a random example: 

GRID 2 that is know to be above than arcade, ? assist in that game.

GRID Autosport that is highly praised by simracers. Use assist in that game

 

Older game

Ridge Racer series, no assist except... You have the simulation version that is R: Racing Evolution... guess what... It has assist available in it

Mario Kart... No assist...

Project Gotham Racing, no assist available in it

Forza Motorsport, have assist option

 

Arcade

Initial D Arcade Stage series, no assist option

Wangan Maximum Tune, no assist

Ferrari F355 challenge, have assist as option(the only sim & the only with assist)

Battle Gear series, no assist as option

Daytona USA, no assist as option

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Driving aids are there for drivers who would not get sick without help.
As the performance aids are too close to those without a driving aid,
many drivers don't bother to switch them off.
And even worse, fast drivers (except maybe esports) can benefit from driving aids.

Driving aids should remain aids, not boosters.

TK & ABS must therefore be adjusted.

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On 7/11/2020 at 9:36 AM, LILLHELM said:

Driving aids are there for drivers who would not get sick without help.
As the performance aids are too close to those without a driving aid,
many drivers don't bother to switch them off.
And even worse, fast drivers (except maybe esports) can benefit from driving aids.

Driving aids should remain aids, not boosters.

TK & ABS must therefore be adjusted.

Imo and from experience, driving aids from Project Cars 2 and Assetto Corsa (both games of AC) are quite balanced. They slow you up, but because you shouldn't risk at the limit of the car, the game must ensure you don't lose control. In F1 basically controls the throttle for you, sometimes you lose time and sometimes you win a lot, depends of the corner. In general makes you win time.

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Assist is there for simracers. Without assist, it's not anymore a simulation.

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Agree, I am a decent driver myself without assists but with abs, tc on medium and automatic shift I can shove 6 tenths. It should be the other way around!

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