The STATE of this game....

[UFLCamo 10]

1 minute ago, Blent said:

I don't need someone else to tell me if it's raining if I can look out of the window and check myself.

and we, the guys who actually care about the game, don’t need anyone to derail this when we are pointing out obvious problems

[TheJock83 1]

2 hours ago, kevar84 said:

Yeah because the game on PC works FINE they say.

Trust me when i say the game on xbox is in a bad state, it is really in a bad state. 

Its hard to believe for you guys when you play only PC, but its horrific at the moment and yes it is unplayable on xbox! 

If your game stops every 15 minutes and lots of things are missing, while i payed 70 euro's. Yes its unplayable for me..

I'm playing on XBox, games works great for me.

Never crashed (during driving anyway), game modes I use (MyTeam, Grand Prix, Time Trial, Grand Prix Season) all working well and I enjoy racing against the AI far more than 2019.

I find it amusing that when someone doesn't like something, or is maybe not as good at a game as they hoped (not a dig at OP, just a general observation) that it is automatically that the game is to blame.  I've only ever found that to be the case with WWE 2k20. 

But again to re-iterate: XBox player of game EXTREMELY satidfied with purchase.

[kevar84 16]

22 minutes ago, Blent said:

Hey, careful what you're saying about iRacing. I hear they've just announced a revolutionary 'grass' update...

Lol, at least i can play that without problems at the moment.

I can not say that about f1 2020 right now.

29 minutes ago, SIMRACER123 said:

Er my background is predominantly iracing and it's somewhat hard to take your initial post as seriously when you complain about wasting 70 euro's on the F1 game and then now say you are returning to iracing where with the greatest of respect to them, they have a number of issues themselves.

For what it's worth, i hear a lot people complaining about bugs, but i certainly have not encountered many of them. Certainly not to the point of making the game unplayable as some people who like to overreact are claiming.

 

For me it is hard to take you seriously. And me Complaining and then returning to iracing?

It just looks like im talking to people from codemasters on there own, Because everything you guys say is out of context. All those things from i heard i heard. We have nothing to that.

I just spoke out what i think of this game at the moment, And im getting the most useless comments.

All you guys want to do is defend this game, but not realizing we need fixing. Because every patch the game has gone backwards!! On Xbox at least. If you do not expierence that just be quiet. And do not try to score points right now. 

Like i said i hate to say this.

[Tadas107 4]

Yes he's right, the game is completely unplayable on xbox. For me the most important is multiplayer mode and its currently dead. I don't understand why there are so many people in this community standing to protect and make excuses for Codemasters. It's been 10 years now and the issue list just getting bigger, the bugs are transferred from game to game with addition of new bugs and errors.

And don't get me started on handling physics that everyone is raving about. It's literally same as 2019 with added slight traction, brakes are easy and inconsistent, cars still feel like hovercrafts. This game is complete arcade with cartoon physics!  Never mind introducing new realistic physics engine or laser scan the tracks so they don't feel so static, naaaah, just introduce new pointless offline mode like My Team, make more assists for casuals, ignore all that is wrong, wrap it and sell it (then patch it with 5000 updates).  

Codemasters are simply incompetent and lazy programmers, who sole interest is to appease casual players and drive sales up by any means. What's worse is that they have exclusive contract with F1 until 2025 😪

[Blent 103]

4 minutes ago, UFLCamo said:

and we, the guys who actually care about the game, don’t need anyone to derail this when we are pointing out obvious problems

And when you make laughable assertions like that, it can hardly be surprising when a lot of us who care enough about the game to regularly post on its official forums simply don't find much value in the kinds of things you say.

And on that very point...

1 minute ago, Tadas107 said:

Yes he's right, the game is completely unplayable on xbox. For me the most important is multiplayer mode and its currently dead. I don't understand why there are so many people in this community standing to protect and make excuses for Codemasters. It's been 10 years now and the issue list just getting bigger, the bugs are transferred from game to game with addition of new bugs and errors.

And don't get me started on handling physics that everyone is raving about. It's literally same as 2019 with added slight traction, brakes are easy and inconsistent, cars still feel like hovercrafts. This game is complete arcade with cartoon physics!  Never mind introducing new realistic physics engine or laser scan the tracks so they don't feel so static, naaaah, just introduce new pointless offline mode like My Team, make more assists for casuals, ignore all that is wrong, wrap it and sell it (then patch it with 5000 updates).  

Codemasters are simply incompetent and lazy programmers, who sole interest is to appease casual players and drive sales up by any means. What's worse is that they have exclusive contract with F1 until 2025 😪

Like, I don't even know where to begin with stuff like this. How do you reason with someone who is so blinded by hatred of a games company for some bizarre reason that they will describe a game with handling praised by actual, real-life F1 drivers as 'complete arcade with cartoon physics'?

There is literally nothing I can say that I think will allow you to see how ludicrous that argument is.

 

Edited July 23 by Blent

[KittyFit90 253]

1 minute ago, UFLCamo said:

and we, the guys who actually care about the game, don’t need anyone to derail this when we are pointing out obvious problems

I haven't seen you coherently discuss a single issue so far, you've just be wailing against anyone who dares to suggest that the game is in actual fact playable FOR THEM... I emphasize that part deliberately. 

[kevar84 16]

7 minutes ago, XanderSJX said:

Just give it a few more years (or months who knows), I expect "arcade racing" to be used for ACC, R3E, iRacing, RF2... 

You must be joking right?

[BelgiumDude 461]

14 minutes ago, BarryBL said:

Okay, I have to MAJORLY interfere here. Whereas people have every right to an opinion on the game based on their own individual experiences, this quote above is simply not true, and something I've taken offence to (Which as most regular forum members know takes a LOT).

I absolutely believe that this is not just incorrect, but exactly the opposite. I've worked at Codemasters for nearly a year now, and can confirm that the guys and girls here care immensely about the product and improving the game. If not, why would we add a totally new mode, something that only fans could dream of 3 years ago (I can say that because I'm a fan too!) There's a commitment to a product here that I've not experienced in my working life before and, to be honest, it's made me 'up my game' to get to that level. 

@AoiAsahina, you are more than free to mention names to me in Private Message's and I can go and confirm this statement with them directly. I simply believe this to be totally untrue.   

That quote doesn't sound like one of an actual employee of Codemasters. More like a disgruntled ex-employee. I wouldn't take too much offense of it as the quote sounds to fanboy to come from an actual marketing person at codemasters. 

[UFLCamo 10]

3 minutes ago, Blent said:

And when you make laughable assertions like that, it can hardly be surprising when a lot of us who care enough about the game to regularly post on its official forums simply don't find much value in the kinds of things you say.

Maybe because I was sweating my ass off in the game for league races and esports qualifying and race instead of in the forums here. Where were you? 
i didn’t get into the beta, but i actually am in many beta/alpha programs for nearly a decade. If i had gotten into the beta I would have reported everything which wasn’t normal. 

smh
 

[Blent 103]

3 minutes ago, kevar84 said:

You must be joking right?

No jokes about it.

I, personally, really enjoy playing my favourite arcade game 'Microsoft Flight Simulator' from time to time.

[alonsothegoat 3]

1 hour ago, kevar84 said:

I have enough of this forum. 

people dont take me serious, but the game is in a worse state it has ever been. 

goodnight i go have some fun on iracing;)

I take you very seriously and completely echo the huge numbers of issues on Xbox. And I dont brand the word 'unplayable' around easily but the mulitplayer modes are literally unplayable on xbox one. I am getting kicked literally every race from all multiplayer game modes either before the race, during qualifying or 2 laps into the race (if im lucky). I have no issues with my xbox live connection and have played previous titles with no issues. I have been messaging, providing reports to @BarryBL for the last two weeks and there has been no progress which is seriously worry considering how fundamental this issue is. They keep saying stuff like 'we prioritise bug fixes and stability' but none of this is happening on my end. They either are only prioritising PC and leaving XBOX in the mud. I wouldn't be surprised about those comments from the codemasters staff because it stinks of what ea are doing with Fifa. Bringing in a 'my team' or 'journey' mode to give an excuse for being lazy on all the other aspects of a game. I have played many f1 games since 2009 on the wii but I think im seeing a shift with Codemasters becoming a money grabbing and lazy organisation like EA have become over the last few years. Really sad times but this is capitalism for you. 

[SIMRACER123 355]

2 minutes ago, kevar84 said:

Lol, at least i can play that without problems at the moment.

I can not say that about f1 2020 right now.

For me it is hard to take you seriously. And me Complaining and then returning to iracing?

 

My experience of the codemasters games is there will be initial bugs and as patches come out the issues become less and less. The game is 1) playable 2) value for money given the bugs are improved over time.

My experience of iracing, aside from it costing approx 15 quid for a car and 15 quid for 1 track was that for the amount you spend they cannot be relied upon to produce a product that doesn't fail the amount it does. Every special event they do is riddled with problems. This year you had a situation where half the best teams were unable to join. This of course is ignoring the fact that car collisions result in your car more likely to land on the moon than react like a normal car....

Oh, and don't even get me started on the iracing physics in the eNASCAR pro event where they ran around with their front noses higher than the rear of the car having just announced a new major series sponsor. That, was embarrassing.... 😂

My point, nothing is perfect.

[KittyFit90 253]

7 minutes ago, UFLCamo said:

Maybe because I was sweating my ass off in the game for league races and esports qualifying and race instead of in the forums here. Where were you? 
i didn’t get into the beta, but i actually am in many beta/alpha programs for nearly a decade. If i had gotten into the beta I would have reported everything which wasn’t normal. 

smh
 

 Thankyou so much for your tireless work, its a pity its all been for nought as the game is clearly terrible...

Edited July 23 by KittyFit90
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[BelgiumDude 461]

5 minutes ago, kevar84 said:

Lol, at least i can play that without problems at the moment.

I can not say that about f1 2020 right now.

For me it is hard to take you seriously. And me Complaining and then returning to iracing?

It just looks like im talking to people from codemasters on there own, Because everything you guys say is out of context. All those things from i heard i heard. We have nothing to that.

I just spoke out what i think of this game at the moment, And im getting the most useless comments.

All you guys want to do is defend this game, but not realizing we need fixing. Because every patch the game has gone backwards!! On Xbox at least. If you do not expierence that just be quiet. And do not try to score points right now. 

Like i said i hate to say this.

But that's because you use the word "Unplayable". The way you describe your experience with he beta make it sound like you played a next gen version of F1 2020. What could be so different in the beta that you think the game I am playing is unplayable. I can finish a season without any problems. Probably has to to with race length as I have not come across the mandatory tyre bug in my game. I did see a man walk on water during a cutscene but I can't see how that would make the game unplayable.

If you would have made a topic how you don't understand that there are still so much bugs in the game after release date I would take your post way more serious but now it sounds like you did not play the beta at all and just angry because there is a podium pass. 

[BarryBL 4,314]

I think possibly an update on the schedule and how the patching process works may be needed, especially for newer users of the forums.

•  Bug reports, in full, are vital to feedback and game development. They act as a light for us. Without them and all the information, we cannot see your issue, and can't even begin to investigate.
•  Codemasters have to be able to reliably and consistently be able to replicate the issue internally too, to identify any problem areas deeper routed in the game
•  We have to diagnose and find a solution for the issue. This can take time. Unfortunately, there is no 'magic wand' (we wish there was) and to find a solution that works reliably can vary in terms of length of time to achieve
• We then have to be confident that the fix works EVERYWHERE. This requires extensive testing to ensure our solution is the right one for public release.

This all takes time. More experienced forum users are aware of this, and understand that issues take time to replicate, diagnose and work on a fix we are confident in. We prioritise issues to add to patch schedules wherever possible. I think being called 'lazy' is unfair on people who gives a LOT of their time to help improve the game every day.   

[DJNicks87 24]

1 hour ago, kevar84 said:

I have enough of this forum. 

people dont take me serious, but the game is in a worse state it has ever been. 

goodnight i go have some fun on iracing;)

This is not an airport, you don’t need to announce your departure.

[Costa 128]

2 minutes ago, SIMRACER123 said:

My experience of the codemasters games is there will be initial bugs and as patches come out the issues become less and less. The game is 1) playable 2) value for money given the bugs are improved over time.

My experience of iracing, aside from it costing approx 15 quid for a car and 15 quid for 1 track was that for the amount you spend they cannot be relied upon to produce a product that doesn't fail the amount it does. Every special event they do is riddled with problems. This year you had a situation where half the best teams were unable to join. This of course is ignoring the fact that car collisions result in your car more likely to land on the moon than react like a normal car....

Oh, and don't even get me started on the iracing physics in the eNASCAR pro event where they ran around with their front noses higher than the rear of the car having just announced a new major series sponsor. That, was embarrassing.... 😂

My point, nothing is perfect.

And you forgot about the amazing tyre problems in iRacing

[XanderSJX 85]

12 minutes ago, kevar84 said:

I just spoke out what i think of this game at the moment, And im getting the most useless comments.

While we are at "useless comments", here is one... I am quoting myself, post I made on page 1 in reply to you, which I didn't get an answer too.

2 hours ago, XanderSJX said:

Did you fill bug report in F1 2020 Technical assistance sub-forum? With details about your game version, your game platform, details about crash and if possible to record it (screen record or use phone)... That part of forum works for all platforms, so I am not arguing with you about (un)playable, I am arguing about bug reported or not... 

 

[Costa 128]

1 minute ago, BarryBL said:

I think possibly an update on the schedule and how the patching process works may be needed, especially for newer users of the forums.

•  Bug reports, in full, are vital to feedback and game development
•  Codemasters have to be able to reliably and consistently be able to replicate the issue internally too, to identify any problem areas deeper routed in the game
•  We have to diagnose and find a solution for the issue. This can take time. Unfortunately, there is no 'magic wand' (we wish there was) and to find a solution that works reliably can vary in terms of length of time to achieve
• We then have to be confident that the fix works EVERYWHERE. This requires extensive testing to ensure our solution is the right one for public release.

This all takes time. More experienced forum users are aware of this, and understand that issues take time to replicate, diagnose and work on a fix we are confident in. We prioritise issues to add to patch schedules wherever possible. I think being called 'lazy' is unfair on people who gives a LOT of their time to help improve the game every day.   

Quick suggestion: is it possible to make it so people can ONLY post in the Technical Assistance sub-forum after they've read the bug templates? A big GREEN banner on top is not enough right now it seems.

[KittyFit90 253]

You should see the 'General Discussion' sub forum, there's pages and pages of 'my game is unplayable'!!!! haven't they heard of game specific sub forums...

Edited July 23 by KittyFit90
grammar

[kevar84 16]

6 minutes ago, DJNicks87 said:

This is not an airport, you don’t need to announce your departure.

haha one word about iracing, and i get the whole codiesarmy against me.

Grow up guys..

[Blent 103]

4 minutes ago, kevar84 said:

haha one word about iracing, and i get the whole codiesarmy against me.

Grow up guys..

Thought you said you were going off to play iRacing?

An hour ago.

Edited July 23 by Blent

[DJNicks87 24]

5 minutes ago, kevar84 said:

haha one word about iracing, and i get the whole codiesarmy against me.

Grow up guys..

My comment wasn’t related to iRacing, it was simply to you leaving. 
 

For what it’s worth, I’m playing the game on a standard PS4 and have had no experience of the majority of bugs that have been raised. The only ones I’ve seen are: qualifying grid times incorrect (now fixed), the guy floating on water in Melbourne (now fixed) and instances of poor graphical rendering and slow load times. 
 

I’ve put a lot of hours into the game since launch and I’m thoroughly enjoying it. Could it do with some polish? Yes, but it’s not the unplayable, terrible game that a lot of people are making it out to be.
 

 

Edited July 23 by DJNicks87

[UFLCamo 10]

9 minutes ago, XanderSJX said:

While we are at "useless comments", here is one... I am quoting myself, post I made on page 1 in reply to you, which I didn't get an answer too.

 

he and many other‘s did report afaik

I bet he made this post because there just so many! problems right now, I know cm is doing their best work to fix all of that, but take into account that there’s still the problem that people payed for something which they did not get so far, looking at pitcoins. 
but it’s really amazing that some here just want to throw a bad shade on criticism here. 

[UP100 1,151]

13 minutes ago, kevar84 said:

haha one word about iracing, and i get the whole codiesarmy against me.

Grow up guys..

I'd advise against these types of comments. It's just going to get more people into this unnecessarily long conversation 🙂