DRS LIGHTS and ERS change

[GOMEX21 3]

Hi everyone,

i have some doubts and i'm sorry if it will a dumb question. I am new on this world, use for the first time a complete Setup by fanatec and want to learn.

1st: When i'm doing Time Trial the 2 purple led of DRS when activate are on, but when i'm doing a grand prix it's not, i think in a grand prix will be appear a green led instaed of purple led, but i'm not sure . I use the camera vision insine the car (cockpit view) and don't have information if DRS is open or not. Why happen this? Am i doing something wrong? I try to change camera view but the purple led didn't appear, of course if i have a camera view outside the cockpit i havea information on the right down corner, but who use like me the cockpit view?

2nd: Why in qualification i can't activate/desactivate ERS, there are HOTLAP (2) and NONE (0), i can't change between both. In race, no problem, i can use like the new ERS activate or desactivate between MEDIUM (1) and OVERTAKE (3). Am i doing something wrong?

Appreciate any kind of help or advices.

 

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Jorge

Edited July 23 by GOMEX21

[KittyFit90 253]

No idea on Question 1 as I don't use a Fanatec wheel myself.

Question 2, this is the new simplified ERS system, you are not doing anything wrong. If you are de-rating at the end of the lap on Hotlap mode try turning it down for a short stretch to get full deployment until the end of the lap (I do this toward the end of straights where ERS deployment is starting to fall away).

[GOMEX21 3]

For the question 1, think it would make confusion. What i try to explain with leds of drs it's not on the wheel/steering wheel, it's in game.

For the question 2, yeah i learn about the new simplified ERS system, but why i can activate/desactivate in race between MEDIUM(1) and OVERTAKE(3) and in qualification i can NOT change between HOTLAP (2) and NONE(0). my question an doubt is really that, why in qualification i can't. Maybe it's another mapping butom that i have to use, diferent of race?

 

Thanks

[KittyFit90 253]

Ahh I get yah,

 

Yes the indicator for DRS being open is hard to see, I myself have gotten in the habit of looking for the finger twitch the driver makes on the left hand when DRS is activated. When I'm in doubt I flick the rear view on quickly to see if the wing is open. Otherwise I am not sure.

 

I think they have locked ERS deployment for qualifying for casual players who may forget to turn it on.

[Costa 128]

36 minutes ago, GOMEX21 said:

For the question 1, think it would make confusion. What i try to explain with leds of drs it's not on the wheel/steering wheel, it's in game.

For the question 2, yeah i learn about the new simplified ERS system, but why i can activate/desactivate in race between MEDIUM(1) and OVERTAKE(3) and in qualification i can NOT change between HOTLAP (2) and NONE(0). my question an doubt is really that, why in qualification i can't. Maybe it's another mapping butom that i have to use, diferent of race?

 

Thanks

You can desativate ERS during quali. Scroll down to it and use the d-pad left and right to change between hotlap and none.

[GioProductions 204]

2 hours ago, GOMEX21 said:

Hi everyone,

i have some doubts and i'm sorry if it will a dumb question. I am new on this world, use for the first time a complete Setup by fanatec and want to learn.

1st: When i'm doing Time Trial the 2 purple led of DRS when activate are on, but when i'm doing a grand prix it's not, i think in a grand prix will be appear a green led instaed of purple led, but i'm not sure . I use the camera vision insine the car (cockpit view) and don't have information if DRS is open or not. Why happen this? Am i doing something wrong? I try to change camera view but the purple led didn't appear, of course if i have a camera view outside the cockpit i havea information on the right down corner, but who use like me the cockpit view?

2nd: Why in qualification i can't activate/desactivate ERS, there are HOTLAP (2) and NONE (0), i can't change between both. In race, no problem, i can use like the new ERS activate or desactivate between MEDIUM (1) and OVERTAKE (3). Am i doing something wrong?

Appreciate any kind of help or advices.

 

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Jorge

2nd point:

"By Design" says Codemasters. But i really dont like that By Design part, as i feel we should use the same ERS manage button as we use in Practise.

We have a topic regarding this:

 

 

[Ultra3142 384]

3 hours ago, GOMEX21 said:

For the question 2, yeah i learn about the new simplified ERS system, but why i can activate/desactivate in race between MEDIUM(1) and OVERTAKE(3) and in qualification i can NOT change between HOTLAP (2) and NONE(0). my question an doubt is really that, why in qualification i can't. Maybe it's another mapping butom that i have to use, diferent of race?

I believe the logic is that hotlap is already the optimal use of ERS for a qualifying lap and so there is no reason to change it. I wonder if this mirrors real F1 actually?

Edit: although thinking about it you'd want a different setting for an out lap and the actual qualifying lap.

Edited July 23 by Ultra3142

[Akkan74 259]

ERS can't be changed normally. For race you push the overtake button. If you want to adjust ERS in Quali you have to bind two buttons or a **** to ERS + and - in options. For Quali its normally in Hotlap. That is the pre defined mapping, but you can switch it to none for in and outlap or if you want to reload and start a hotlap again.

[GOMEX21 3]

First of all, thanks to all to help and advice me.

GioProductions i agree with you.

Costa what you said me, so i posible can use a mdf shorcut to mappeable ERS change in qualifying mode.

Ultra3142 in some point you have reason, but some tracks are very long and if from the beggin you push hard always in hotlap on qualifying you at the end of the lap don't have ERS to use, i that's what i try to talk about, because in some points of track you can easy a little bit ERS to you can use until the end.

KittyFfit90 i undersatnd what you say but it's an advantaje who use cockpit view, because who use anor camera view always have a confirm that DRS ar open or not.

But like i said before, the odd is when you are on Time Trial led light DRS are ok but when you are on a grand prix not. And that's is my main doubt if possiblity i'm doing something wrong.

 

Regards to all.

[GOMEX21 3]

2 minutes ago, Akkan74 said:

ERS can't be changed normally. For race you push the overtake button. If you want to adjust ERS in Quali you have to bind two buttons or a **** to ERS + and - in options. For Quali its normally in Hotlap. That is the pre defined mapping, but you can switch it to none for in and outlap or if you want to reload and start a hotlap again.

Thanks Akkan74. Think we answer at the same time and didn't see your text.

Cheers Mate.

[Akkan74 259]

For DRS you mean on the ingame steering wheel? Could you make some screenshots? I'm a bit confused at the moment what you actually mean.

[Ultra3142 384]

2 minutes ago, GOMEX21 said:

Ultra3142 in some point you have reason, but some tracks are very long and if from the beggin you push hard always in hotlap on qualifying you at the end of the lap don't have ERS to use, i that's what i try to talk about, because in some points of track you can easy a little bit ERS to you can use until the end.

Isn't hotlap is a preplanned deployment at appropriate points round the track, rather than a constant maximum deployment that would run out before the end of the lap?

[GOMEX21 3]

4 minutes ago, Akkan74 said:

For DRS you mean on the ingame steering wheel? Could you make some screenshots? I'm a bit confused at the moment what you actually mean.

Ingame, on the monitor/tv, not on the steering wheel. Later i'll show some screenshots. Thanks mate.

[GOMEX21 3]

6 minutes ago, Ultra3142 said:

Isn't hotlap is a preplanned deployment at appropriate points round the track, rather than a constant maximum deployment that would run out before the end of the lap?

I think if you use from the begining to the end you might end your batery before cross the line, but not sure. But this is not the main doubt and question. For all the answer and advices i think what Akkan74 said it will resolve.

[CarloLewis 418]

1 hour ago, GOMEX21 said:

I think if you use from the begining to the end you might end your batery before cross the line, but not sure. But this is not the main doubt and question. For all the answer and advices i think what Akkan74 said it will resolve.

Hotlap is programmed to deploy the maximum amount of battery power allowed over a single lap (4MJ) in the most efficient way possible.

I guess it may depend slightly on driving style, as if you were to take slightly wider lines (you are slightly lengthening the lap), and maybe have some traction issues (you're deploying energy but not travelling as far) it's possible that the full amount of ERS could be deployed before you cross the start/finish line.

Edited July 23 by CarloLewis

[CarloLewis 418]

 

1 hour ago, CarloLewis said:

Hotlap is programmed to deploy the maximum amount of battery power allowed over a single lap (4MJ) in the most efficient way possible.

I guess it may depend slightly on driving style, as if you were to take slightly wider lines (you are slightly lengthening the lap), and maybe have some traction issues (you're deploying energy but not travelling as far) it's possible that the full amount of ERS could be deployed before you cross the start/finish line.

Following on from this, I suppose it's also possible that some tracks may have been mapped poorly. If so, it would be worth passing any evidence over to Codies for them to investigate.

[Ultra3142 384]

I just had a quick play to check I wasn't way off above. On the two tracks I tested (Hungary and Australia) the ERS battery got nowhere near fully depleted during a single qualifying lap with Hotlap selected all the time. Maybe this varies with track but I'd suggest starting by having it on for the full lap and only worry about turning it down to None if you find it runs out.

Obviously switch it to None for out/in Laps if you do them though.

[GioProductions 204]

18 hours ago, Ultra3142 said:

I believe the logic is that hotlap is already the optimal use of ERS for a qualifying lap and so there is no reason to change it. I wonder if this mirrors real F1 actually?

Edit: although thinking about it you'd want a different setting for an out lap and the actual qualifying lap.

yes, exactly that last part. I would do my outlap on none and when starting the Quali lap, i would put it on Hotlap, so i am sure i start with 100% ERS.

But the problem i have with this in Quali, is just the way that Codemasters decided to use again other buttons for changing that. And i use the Shortcuts ERS option in  the game, but that works with Practise, but not with Quali.

So i would need to use other buttons again just to do that, but we are limited on buttons on some wheel 😞

And i am happy i am not the only one with this, as you can see here. But doubt Codemasters will do anything..

 

 

[Akkan74 259]

You don't need to use shortcuts for MFD. You could do it also by going up/down and left/right in MFD directly, if you assigned buttons to this options.

[CarloLewis 418]

22 minutes ago, Akkan74 said:

You don't need to use shortcuts for MFD. You could do it also by going up/down and left/right in MFD directly, if you assigned buttons to this options.

Yes that's a workaround, but it's not suitable. Assuming this is a qualifying session you have mode 0 and 2 available. On my out lap I want to turn ERS to 0 so I need to:

1. Press the MFD button

2. Press down on the Dpad 3 times

3. Press left on the Dpad once.

So 5 button presses at the start of my outlap and 5 more at the end to put it back to mode 2. That's the reason there are MFD shortcuts that say 'Increase ERS' and 'Decrease ERS'.

CM have said "by design" but that's bs. Given that only modes 0 and 2 are available in a session and I am currently in mode 2, when I press the decrease ERS shortcut button, then the ERS mode should be changed to 0.

[GOMEX21 3]

1 hour ago, GioProductions said:

yes, exactly that last part. I would do my outlap on none and when starting the Quali lap, i would put it on Hotlap, so i am sure i start with 100% ERS.

But the problem i have with this in Quali, is just the way that Codemasters decided to use again other buttons for changing that. And i use the Shortcuts ERS option in  the game, but that works with Practise, but not with Quali.

So i would need to use other buttons again just to do that, but we are limited on buttons on some wheel 😞

And i am happy i am not the only one with this, as you can see here. But doubt Codemasters will do anything..

 

 

Exactly what you say. I didn't try in practice but in quali i can't use the shortcuts ERS too like i said yesterday.

[GOMEX21 3]

5 minutes ago, CarloLewis said:

Yes that's a workaround, but it's not suitable. Assuming this is a qualifying session you have mode 0 and 2 available. On my out lap I want to turn ERS to 0 so I need to:

1. Press the MFD button

2. Press down on the Dpad 3 times

3. Press left on the Dpad once.

So 5 button presses at the start of my outlap and 5 more at the end to put it back to mode 2. That's the reason there are MFD shortcuts that say 'Increase ERS' and 'Decrease ERS'.

CM have said "by design" but that's bs. Given that only modes 0 and 2 are available in a session and I am currently in mode 2, when I press the decrease ERS shortcut button, then the ERS mode should be changed to 0.

TOTALLY agree. Exactly what you wrote.

Hope they can fix that soon.

Thanks Mate.

[GioProductions 204]

1 hour ago, CarloLewis said:

Yes that's a workaround, but it's not suitable. Assuming this is a qualifying session you have mode 0 and 2 available. On my out lap I want to turn ERS to 0 so I need to:

1. Press the MFD button

2. Press down on the Dpad 3 times

3. Press left on the Dpad once.

So 5 button presses at the start of my outlap and 5 more at the end to put it back to mode 2. That's the reason there are MFD shortcuts that say 'Increase ERS' and 'Decrease ERS'.

CM have said "by design" but that's bs. Given that only modes 0 and 2 are available in a session and I am currently in mode 2, when I press the decrease ERS shortcut button, then the ERS mode should be changed to 0.

This is 100% the issue! I wish Codemasters could read this and understand what the issue is..

 

@BarryBL

[GioProductions 204]

2 hours ago, Akkan74 said:

You don't need to use shortcuts for MFD. You could do it also by going up/down and left/right in MFD directly, if you assigned buttons to this options.

Let me try to explain it to you.

I use Schortcuts for Fuel and ERS on my wheel, because i have 2 rotate dials on my wheel. Look here:

 

So just by Codemasters "By Design" they have know , they did change the way you could change the ERS in Qualifiying,  means i cannot use the Fuel and ERS shortcut, because those button are the same as you would use as "D-Pad" button. Large this picture and look at the 2 rotate dials and the D-Pad buttons, they have the same option and cannot be changed in the game.

 

If they would use the same button as you use in Practise, non of this issue would be!

But i doubt Codemasters will change it, so we are screwed 😖

Edited July 24 by GioProductions
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[Akkan74 259]

3 minutes ago, GioProductions said:

Let me try to explain it to you.

I use Schortcuts for Fuel and ERS on my wheel, because i have 2 rotate dials on my wheel. Look here:

 

So just by Codemasters "By Design" they have know , they did change the way you could change the ERS in Qualifiying,  means i cannot use the Fuel and ERS shortcut, because those button are the same as you would use as "D-Pad" button. Large this picture and look at the 2 rotate dials and the D-Pad buttons, they have the same option and cannot br changed in the game

 

If they would use the same button as you use in Practise, non of this issue would be!

But i doubt Codemasters will change it, so we are screwed 😖

I have also two rotarys at the side. One for Fuel +/- and one for ERS +/-. I have also assigned one Button as Overtake button. As i understood it right i could use the button in race and practice, but the rotary did nothing and i could use the rotary in Quali, but the button would do nothing. That was my understanding how it works and thats the understanding i have used for button binding, but i have to test it first. At the moment i did a lot of TT, where i only use the button for overtake.

My new wheel has a lot of buttons more and two rotarys more. I hope this is enough for all functions.