Need Help

[chucky123456789 6]

Please can someone help I seem to have no straight line speed and can't understand why I've tried tons of set up guides and I'm still really slow (my car is 3rd on the power bit in r&d) someone please help 

 

[Nightfire1964 161]

Check engine temps and your fuel mix and how you are using ers can very much dictate your straight-line speed

[Ultra3142 384]

Is it maximum speed or the time it takes you to get there that is the problem? I'm asking as seeming slow on straights compared to other cars could easily be down to how early you're able to get on the power / traction.

[chucky123456789 6]

It's top speed I seem to be struggling with ai seems to be 10-15mph quicker than me 

[marioho 686]

If (and that is a humongous if haha) your setup is ok, your component wear is ok, your performance on the powertrain department of the R&D is ok, and your throttle application on corner exit is ok but you're still feeling you're mysteriously lacking in top speed, than check your performance on the Aero department, mainly the drag subcategory of updates.

That has a massive role in top speed. Like 2019 Ferrari "we'll catch Mercedes on 2020 with our new aero package" massive role.  

[chucky123456789 6]

Completely done with this game now dropped ai difficulty to 50 and I'm still getting caught. Something has to be wrong cause I ain't that bad at the game, oh well I'm selling the game now

[Marty_K_ 55]

Might be a long shot but,...

If you're using a Logitech G29 Wheel, it has a history of the accelerator potentiometers "spiking", ...meaning that you won't achieve constant full speed when pressing down to full throttle (hence why other cars are 10-15kmh faster than you on the straights). Over the years I have had three (3) Logitech G29s do this. It is very frustating, and it completely ruins the racing experience. You can temporarily fix this with spraying Contact Cleaner on to the (accelerator) potentiometer (see YouTube).

I can't wait to upgrade to the Fanatec Wheel & Pedals.

[marioho 686]

1 hour ago, chucky123456789 said:

Completely done with this game now dropped ai difficulty to 50 and I'm still getting caught. Something has to be wrong cause I ain't that bad at the game, oh well I'm selling the game now

Don't get me wrong, I myself started playing on AI 19 just to give you an idea of how bad I was, but AI 50 is nowhere near what is considered "good" in this game. It's just okay – and that's nothing wrong with that, mind you.

The game sure has a bunch of problems but if you take a cursory look on the first pages of both the General Chat and Technical Assistance forums you'll not see "my car is lacking top speed please fix this game" anywhere, mate. That's a driving first, setup second problem. Maybe a car upgrade problem if you bludgeoned your way though the season without reading the descriptions of what each category of upgrades does. Now, a bug or technical issue? Doubt it.  

If you're willing to be helped I'll take a wild shot here and say the community will happily oblige with tips and takes, but you gave us nothing to work with.

[chucky123456789 6]

44 minutes ago, marioho said:

Don't get me wrong, I myself started playing on AI 19 just to give you an idea of how bad I was, but AI 50 is nowhere near what is considered "good" in this game. It's just okay – and that's nothing wrong with that, mind you.

The game sure has a bunch of problems but if you take a cursory look on the first pages of both the General Chat and Technical Assistance forums you'll not see "my car is lacking top speed please fix this game" anywhere, mate. That's a driving first, setup second problem. Maybe a car upgrade problem if you bludgeoned your way though the season without reading the descriptions of what each category of upgrades does. Now, a bug or technical issue? Doubt it.  

If you're willing to be helped I'll take a wild shot here and say the community will happily oblige with tips and takes, but you gave us nothing to work with.

I know I'm not great at the game but I was playing at level 90 on f1 2019 without struggling surely I shouldn't be getting caught at over a second a lap on level 50 on this years game. I just can't understand what I'm doing wrong, I use setups from on app I downloaded I also use medium breaking assist and racing line I also use a pad not a wheel 

[chucky123456789 6]

1 hour ago, Marty_K_ said:

Might be a long shot but,...

If you're using a Logitech G29 Wheel, it has a history of the accelerator potentiometers "spiking", ...meaning that you won't achieve constant full speed when pressing down to full throttle (hence why other cars are 10-15kmh faster than you on the straights). Over the years I have had three (3) Logitech G29s do this. It is very frustating, and it completely ruins the racing experience. You can temporarily fix this with spraying Contact Cleaner on to the (accelerator) potentiometer (see YouTube).

I can't wait to upgrade to the Fanatec Wheel & Pedals.

I use a pad mate 

[marioho 686]

You do realize though that odds are way way way more in favor of it being a driver error than an issue with the game, right? 

I think the only way you could get some help would be to upload a clip. Being so vague and paltry on the details make it a tall order to give tips or an insight on what could be going wrong.

Braking assist is an obvious hindrance but I'd doubt it is the issue at hand here. Top speed is much more a factor of early throttle application, meaning corner exit is more significant than corner entry. Traction control assist would play much more of a role here.

Sorry but just because a setup is on an app you found online that is no guarantee that will be a good setup. There are a bazillion rubbish ones everywhere. 

If you do want assistance, consider providing a clip of your gameplay + your setup + a list of the following upgrades you have unlocked (Department > Category)

• Powertrain Department > Engine Power
• Aerodynamics Department > Drag
• Powertrain Department > ERS

They all play a huge role on your top speed, mate. And that's not to say that you may be pointing fingers at a shiny red herring regarding your performance as top speed is indeed important, but far from being the most dominant factor in a race. 

Case in point, courtesy of the beautiful F1 By The Numbers:

Gasly was 12kph faster than Verstappen on the speed trap. Would you bet a nickel on Gasly and his Alpha Tauri being competitive with Max though?

And to quote from the site editor, who is spot on IMO:

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In my opinion, the maximum speeds taken at the speed traps are a bit overrated. They do not directly translate to good or bad performance over the whole lap. Having said that, the data still give us valuable information about the strengths and weaknesses of each car.

Take Haas for example. They are among the worst in every single speed trap. It doesn’t mean that they will be horrible during the race (they may be though!), but it tells us that either a) they are running an aggressive high downforce setup, b) they struggle with overheating, c) their power unit isn’t strong enough for a track like Silverstone, or d) a combination of all or some of the previous options.

Are you absolutely thoroughly utterly sure that the AI is simply not making a better use of ERS, DRS, slipstreaming and fuel mix than you?

Throw us a bone, mate. This could be anything, from a faulty controller trigger to a setup oversight or (which is more than likely) a case of the PICNICs. 

Edited August 4 by marioho

[Ultra3142 384]

Lots of good info. from @marioho above .

3 hours ago, chucky123456789 said:

I use setups from on app I downloaded

Which app out of interest? Setups in My Team are going to be a complicated subject given the big possible variability in car performance so I'd be a little sceptical of relying on an app to reliably give you the best option. Note that setups in the 2020 game behave differently to 2019 too.

I take it you've done the obvious thing of just running lower wing values to see the effect on top speed? If it helps David Greco has posted to say that the AI typically use 4 5 wings in F1 2020, although there will be variation between tracks. 

I am still doubtful top speed is really the issue here though. A top driver using a default setup would still easily beat me no matter how I'd tweaked things to give a higher top speed!

3 hours ago, chucky123456789 said:

I know I'm not great at the game but I was playing at level 90 on f1 2019 without struggling surely I shouldn't be getting caught at over a second a lap on level 50 on this years game.

I don't know how it scales across the whole difficulty range but note the 0% AI are considerably faster in F1 2020 than in F1 2019, so perhaps the 50% AI are as well? I don't know.

[chucky123456789 6]

3 hours ago, marioho said:

You do realize though that odds are way way way more in favor of it being a driver error than an issue with the game, right? 

I think the only way you could get some help would be to upload a clip. Being so vague and paltry on the details make it a tall order to give tips or an insight on what could be going wrong.

Braking assist is an obvious hindrance but I'd doubt it is the issue at hand here. Top speed is much more a factor of early throttle application, meaning corner exit is more significant than corner entry. Traction control assist would play much more of a role here.

Sorry but just because a setup is on an app you found online that is no guarantee that will be a good setup. There are a bazillion rubbish ones everywhere. 

If you do want assistance, consider providing a clip of your gameplay + your setup + a list of the following upgrades you have unlocked (Department > Category)

• Powertrain Department > Engine Power
• Aerodynamics Department > Drag
• Powertrain Department > ERS

They all play a huge role on your top speed, mate. And that's not to say that you may be pointing fingers at a shiny red herring regarding your performance as top speed is indeed important, but far from being the most dominant factor in a race. 

Case in point, courtesy of the beautiful F1 By The Numbers:

Gasly was 12kph faster than Verstappen on the speed trap. Would you bet a nickel on Gasly and his Alpha Tauri being competitive with Max though?

And to quote from the site editor, who is spot on IMO:

Are you absolutely thoroughly utterly sure that the AI is simply not making a better use of ERS, DRS, slipstreaming and fuel mix than you?

Throw us a bone, mate. This could be anything, from a faulty controller trigger to a setup oversight or (which is more than likely) a case of the PICNICs. 

The app I use for setups is formula car setups and on that app each setup is given a rating of 1 to 5 stars and the time of a lap, I'll see if I can upload a clip of me doing a lap 

[Ultra3142 384]

2 minutes ago, chucky123456789 said:

The app I use for setups is formula car setups

This app?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.m3skalina.f1gamesetup&hl=en_GB

If so it doesn't cover F1 2020, and therefore the complexities of the My Team car. I wouldn't rely on it.

[marioho 686]

What @Ultra3142 said. I actually downloaded the app. Bunch of time trial setups, unbalanced setups and those left/right setups.

Yeah, I wouldn't bother. 

Again, consider providing a clip of your gameplay + your setup + a list of the  upgrades you have unlocked from the categories I mentioned above.

And try running with a reasonable setup. Go with the default preset 4 if you don't know where to begin.

Personally the clip is what I'm most curious to see.

[chucky123456789 6]

29 minutes ago, Ultra3142 said:

This app?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.m3skalina.f1gamesetup&hl=en_GB

If so it doesn't cover F1 2020, and therefore the complexities of the My Team car. I wouldn't rely on it.

Yeah that's the one, it does cover f1 2020 as it has an f1 2020 section on it mate 

[Ultra3142 384]

4 minutes ago, chucky123456789 said:

Yeah that's the one, it does cover f1 2020 as it has an f1 2020 section on it mate 

Oh, OK. The app description I linked to stops at F1 2019.

[PJTierney 4,908]

@chucky123456789 This is a long-shot, but can you try this?

Pause > Preferences > Controls, Vibration & Force Feedback

 

Check your throttle input (bottom of screen) to make sure it goes all the way from 0 to 100.

 

If you're not getting full travel, set Throttle Deadzone to 0 and Throttle Saturation to 0.

If you're still not getting full travel, your controller's broken.

 

[chucky123456789 6]

54 minutes ago, PJTierney said:

@chucky123456789 This is a long-shot, but can you try this?

Pause > Preferences > Controls, Vibration & Force Feedback

 

Check your throttle input (bottom of screen) to make sure it goes all the way from 0 to 100.

 

If you're not getting full travel, set Throttle Deadzone to 0 and Throttle Saturation to 0.

If you're still not getting full travel, your controller's broken.

 

Just checked it mate it goes to 80 and I have to squeeze the trigger hard to get that

[PJTierney 4,908]

There's your problem, you're not getting full throttle travel.

Try a different controller if you can.

[chucky123456789 6]

3 minutes ago, PJTierney said:

There's your problem, you're not getting full throttle travel.

Try a different controller if you can.

Thanks for your help m8, i switched brake and throttle arround for now (the difference is huge now it's working properly) and just ordered a new ps4 controller which is coming tomorrow

[chucky123456789 6]

Just want to say thanks to everyone for helping really appreciate it, I have now found what the problem was when I was pressing the throttle (r2 on my pad) I was only getting 80% power so I have ordered a new pad. For now I have switched brake and throttle arround and the difference is huge

[PJTierney 4,908]

 

Sorted 😄 

[Ultra3142 384]

Good catch @PJTierney 👍.

[chucky123456789 6]

Just a quick update, now I have found what the problem was I have looked at my lap times and can see I'm about 8 seconds a lap quicker now