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What do you guys think of these two PCs? (Both need an OS)

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/371009136907?cmd=VIDESC&gxo=true

And 

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/371009177615?nav=SEARCH

Which one would be the better buy and how close would they be performance wise? 

Also, how would the AMD 6670 (GPU) and fx-6100 (CPU) compare to the ones in these? Really need some help to find a good PC that can run 1080p in medium/high settings for a reasonable price so any feedback would be great guys :)

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The Intel one is better, although I'm not sure if it worth the extra £80...
Would you say that for example the fx-6100 is entry level and the i7 4790 is say medium-high? I'm not entirely sure where components stand overall

Other than the CPU, is it that much better (the more expensive one)?
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I'd say the i7 is the winner, no doubt about that: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4790-vs-AMD-FX-8350
And you would notice a difference. I upgraded from the 8320 to an i7 4770K and it made a pretty big difference! The 6100 is a little bit above entry level, but that i7 is high end for sure. What you might find lets you down is that GPU, it's not all that powerful tbh. You could deffo play games at medium graphics, no doubt about that, but try and push it higher at 1080p and you'll find it struggles.
Also I wouldn't really trust buying one without an OS from Ebay. I've done it before myself, and it's extremely barebones so you'll end up having to buy more parts anyway. It'll come with few, if any case fans for example, the cable management won't be all that good, and most parts they haven't advertised will be extremely low grade.

What would be the absolute max you could spend? And would you feel comfortable building it yourself?
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I'd say the i7 is the winner, no doubt about that: http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4790-vs-AMD-FX-8350
And you would notice a difference. I upgraded from the 8320 to an i7 4770K and it made a pretty big difference! The 6100 is a little bit above entry level, but that i7 is high end for sure. What you might find lets you down is that GPU, it's not all that powerful tbh. You could deffo play games at medium graphics, no doubt about that, but try and push it higher at 1080p and you'll find it struggles.
Also I wouldn't really trust buying one without an OS from Ebay. I've done it before myself, and it's extremely barebones so you'll end up having to buy more parts anyway. It'll come with few, if any case fans for example, the cable management won't be all that good, and most parts they haven't advertised will be extremely low grade.

What would be the absolute max you could spend? And would you feel comfortable building it yourself?
I'd be OK building it myself I think, I put a more basic one together in IT at college, plus there is a ton of tutorials online. 
If you have time, could you put together a PC on PC part pickers at about £480 £520 without an OS so I could get an idea of what to look for? If you haven't got time, I'll have a look on reddit for someone, so its fine if you don't want too.
Someone I know from College thinks EBay is OK, so I'm not too sure, although I'm inclined to believe you. 

Medium is OK really, my 6670 would only get low on 1080p I reckon 
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Right, all done! 

So the CPU I put in there instead, while not as good as the i7, is still a fair bit better than than the 8350. Plus with the K being overclockable, you can get the same speeds out of it as the 4790 anyway :) The R9 270 is a little better than the GTX 660 Nvidia rival, but you'd be able to play F1 with most of the game maxed out. 
With the motherboard I've found you one that has a USB 3.0 header that can take advantage of the USB 3.0 ports on the front of the Bitfenix case. The ebay motherbaord didn't have the header, and the USB 3.0 port on the case for that one would have been practically useless. 
The HDD is a pretty quick 1TB (I use the same one for my gaming drive), but for roughly £20 more you can get a 1TB hybrid drive that performs almost as well as an SSD. I left that off the list though to keep within budget.
The power supply I've chosen is certified and from a well known brand, the ebay one would have likely been a £15 generic bargain bin one.
And I've matched the RAM from the ebay one and chosen an aftermarket cooler too. You might need to spend a little extra on a few cables, thermal paste, and an extra fan or two, but this rig evens out the CPU and GPU, giving you the best of both worlds, and it'll be more or less just as fast as the i7 one from ebay while being able to play games properly :)

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2snrwP
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Cheers, the only thing I would ask is that, is it possible to simply change the r9 270 for the r9 270x? Only £12 more, looks decent too. The rest of it looks good though :D 

(With the r9 270x + Windows 7)
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/hfxjqs
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AMS97KRR said:
The Intel one is better, although I'm not sure if it worth the extra £80...
Would you say that for example the fx-6100 is entry level and the i7 4790 is say medium-high? I'm not entirely sure where components stand overall

Other than the CPU, is it that much better (the more expensive one)?
there is I have the 8350 in my machine but I think if I knew then what I know now I probably would have stuck with Intel I'm not saying the 8350 is bad btw as it does a good job most of the time and has pretty much hsandled everything I've thrown at it with flying colours. But  there are little glitches that have appeared in my games due to it's programming I've managed to work around them and will  continue to do so whenever I play the games where they pop up but it can be a pain. Both are gaming proccessors but I think Intel one's generally perform better.
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AMS97KRR said:
Cheers, the only thing I would ask is that, is it possible to simply change the r9 270 for the r9 270x? Only £12 more, looks decent too. The rest of it looks good though :D 

(With the r9 270x + Windows 7)
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/hfxjqs
Yea for sure bud :) The R9 270X requires 2x 6pin power connectors, and luckily that power supply has exactly that ;)

With that setup, you could play Battlefield 4 on ultra settings and get a smooth 50-60FPS out of it. Definitely a good rig!
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I'll have to see how much I can sell my old PC for.

It has a Radeon 6670 HD (I'll have to check the GB and GDDR), FX-6100 (Again, have to check details), 1TB memory, 8GB RAM, WINDOWS 7 only 18 months old. Pretty nice case too (I'll link a PC with the same case below). What kind of price range am I looking at really? I was thinking around £250-£300 but then I'm not expert.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/FX-6300-Gaming-Bulldozer-OVERCLOCKED-pre-installed/dp/B00B26EDBI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1413667414&sr=8-4&keywords=gaming+pc

I say it is 18 months old, the first 4 or 5 months didn't see much use as I didn't have too many games, so really it has had less than that in terms of usage regularly
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But I doubt many people would want a PC without a HDD

I found windows for £44 on Amazon, the HDD in that build is £37, that makes £81 for a HDD and OS. I guarantee my HDD is not as good as that one. I think having a HDD with Windows installed would make it more appealing tbh. I don't know how it works out financially though...
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Did you buy a disc or digital copy of Windows? Either way, just wipe the HDD in the PC you wanna sell, install your copy of Windows on the new PC and if it asks just say that it's only installed on one machine. When it's installed just reactivate it using the phone method, takes about 5 minutes and you're all good. I've done it a bunch of times :)

As for price, £250 seems reasonable to me.
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Did you buy a disc or digital copy of Windows? Either way, just wipe the HDD in the PC you wanna sell, install your copy of Windows on the new PC and if it asks just say that it's only installed on one machine. When it's installed just reactivate it using the phone method, takes about 5 minutes and you're all good. I've done it a bunch of times :)

As for price, £250 seems reasonable to me.
That's what I do too in this situation
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Did you buy a disc or digital copy of Windows? Either way, just wipe the HDD in the PC you wanna sell, install your copy of Windows on the new PC and if it asks just say that it's only installed on one machine. When it's installed just reactivate it using the phone method, takes about 5 minutes and you're all good. I've done it a bunch of times :)

As for price, £250 seems reasonable to me.
Ah, I have to just tell them that I changed motherboard because it broke right?

Also, do you know what cables I will need to buy and what Thermal paste is good?
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AMS97KRR said:
Did you buy a disc or digital copy of Windows? Either way, just wipe the HDD in the PC you wanna sell, install your copy of Windows on the new PC and if it asks just say that it's only installed on one machine. When it's installed just reactivate it using the phone method, takes about 5 minutes and you're all good. I've done it a bunch of times :)

As for price, £250 seems reasonable to me.
Ah, I have to just tell them that I changed motherboard because it broke right?

Also, do you know what cables I will need to buy and what Thermal paste is good?
Nah you don't even have to say a word :p It's all automated. When Windows tells you you need to activate, just choose the phone option and the telephone number you need to ring will come up on-screen with about 12 boxes filled with numbers. You need to type the numbers in on the phone, then the robot reads a bunch back to you that you put into your pc, and when you click done/next/finish it should then activate :)

With thermal paste, Arctic Silver 5 without a doubt. Also best when you're applying it to just put a small blob in the middle (see pic below) and press the heat sink down onto it. It'll spread the paste for you evenly and without air bubbles. Whatever you do, don't listen to anyone that says you need to spread it first lol :)

Oh and cables, you might need a SATA cable or 2, but usually the motherboard has 1 in the box. Best to be prepared though and buy 2 just in case. That should be it really!
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AMS97KRR said:
Did you buy a disc or digital copy of Windows? Either way, just wipe the HDD in the PC you wanna sell, install your copy of Windows on the new PC and if it asks just say that it's only installed on one machine. When it's installed just reactivate it using the phone method, takes about 5 minutes and you're all good. I've done it a bunch of times :)

As for price, £250 seems reasonable to me.
Ah, I have to just tell them that I changed motherboard because it broke right?

Also, do you know what cables I will need to buy and what Thermal paste is good?
Nah you don't even have to say a word :p It's all automated. When Windows tells you you need to activate, just choose the phone option and the telephone number you need to ring will come up on-screen with about 12 boxes filled with numbers. You need to type the numbers in on the phone, then the robot reads a bunch back to you that you put into your pc, and when you click done/next/finish it should then activate :)

With thermal paste, Arctic Silver 5 without a doubt. Also best when you're applying it to just put a small blob in the middle (see pic below) and press the heat sink down onto it. It'll spread the paste for you evenly and without air bubbles. Whatever you do, don't listen to anyone that says you need to spread it first lol :)

Oh and cables, you might need a SATA cable or 2, but usually the motherboard has 1 in the box. Best to be prepared though and buy 2 just in case. That should be it really!
Cheers, for the help, one last thing though, how many fans should I buy, and which ones? :)

Ok, I spoke to someone else, and they directed me on it, is this good to go - 

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/23JZqs

(Overriden a few things, price was not much different)
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Personally I'd say 3x 120mm of the fans in the link below, 2 for the front and 1 for the rear. They're the same fans that both @Hughesy and I use, plus you can get em in black, white, red, or blue :) 
http://www.aerocool.us/accessory/images/dsfan_12bk.html

If those are a bit too pricey, then these are pretty good too. Not as quiet, and they don't cool a system as well as the DS fans, but they're better than most others I've used. Plus you can get em in black, white, red, blue, or green.
http://www.aerocool.us/accessory/shark_b12.html
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  Ok, I've decided to go with the shark ones, the others are a bit too much for 3 of them. 1 is already included, with space for two more, so do I want 2 sharks or 3 sharks (replace the existing one)?

This is how it is looking now
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/xVvcyc

I got told to buy these in case too:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Express-Power-Adapter-Molex-Lead/dp/B00KEPEN2M/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1413679725&sr=8-7&keywords=4+pin+molex

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Internal-Power-Splitter-Cable-Adapter/dp/B0048OHTGM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1413679725&sr=8-6&keywords=4+pin+molex

http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Right-Angle-Serial-Cable/dp/B0001Y8UI4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1413679790&sr=8-3&keywords=sata
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3 Sharks, most fans that come with a case are pretty awful so best to replace the one that does :p 

Who told you to buy those adapters? Whoever it was didn't check out the power supply. It already has everything you need so you won't have to get the adapter or the splitter. I would say to grab 2 of the SATA cables though, link below for better priced locking ones.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOCKING-Right-Angle-SATA-to-straight-Lock-S-ATA-Internal-Cable-Data-45cm-Red-/120916943053?pt=UK_Computing_Drive_Cables_Adapters&hash=item1c273620cd
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