RS Phil 214 Posted August 20 1. A detailed description of the issue. Please include any error codes here. Running under SC (first position for Bottas Mercedes preceded by a lapped Williams, I'm following Bottas) on lap 43. 1a. When passing the line (0:01 in video) the message telling to "stay behind Bottas" change to "stay behind" and all the names starts to pop up! 1b. At 0:12 in the video, a message saying that vehicle ahead may be passed (The Williams) and you can see that the lapped Williams becomes transparent! So Bottas, the leader passes and me just afterwards. 1c. At 0:20 in the video, a message saying that Bottas is ceiding position (??) and I can pass Bottas, what I did not do and stay 2nd. Seriously CM! What is this? I even don't speak about the likeliness of having a SC (either too often or never) but the SC feature needs a good fixes and a whole patch! To be complete (this is not on the video), I finished first because Bottas received a 5 seconds penalty for not respecting yellow flag on lap 43 and not having served his penalty (I did not know he has a penalty either and believed I finished 2nd). You should also know that a restart, I had a little incident with the Williams trying to overtake Bottas (Remember the Williams is a lapped car). Please investigate and come out with a SC working (bugged since years) or removed this feature like you did some years ago. Great game with marvelous handling but the SC is a game breaker. Please do something. I already posted a video proving that a SC was needed (without response). 2. Platform PS4 3. What version of the game you are using (Shown on the start screen in the bottom left corner of the screen) 1.07 4. Game-mode? Career mode 100% race distance season 3 5. What are your replication numbers? Minimum test attempts are 4. Please also add EXACT replication steps for us to try too. Happens only once but difficult to replicate since only 2 safety cars in 33 GP! 6. What troubleshooting have you attempted? Please always try to attempt to fix the issue Save mid race and reload. Exactly the same. 7. What peripherals are you are using (gamepad, wheel make & model etc) Fanatec CSL Elite F1 esport + loadcell brake 8. Any screenshots or video of the issue? If the video is long, please include a timestamp for when the issue appears. See video. SC.mp4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS Phil 214 Posted August 21 No one experience this ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ostendorfjens 41 Posted August 21 Uh, what exactly am I looking at here? Okay, the message that Bottas was ceding position doesn't seem logical, particularly since it only appeared for, like, three seconds, but his penalty suggests that you should really have tried to pass him. If you had and if the game had then told you to relinquish the position again because of an illegal overtake, you'd have known what's up. Since you didn't, there's no way to really determine what went wrong. To be honest, I don't even know what you're complaining about here. (But maybe I didn't get your meaning correctly - I'm still German, English's not my native tongue.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS Phil 214 Posted August 21 1 hour ago, ostendorfjens said: , I don't even know what you're complaining about here Seriously? have you read my post and watch the video? is it normal to have all the names popping up at the start finish line? Is it normal to have a lapped car becoming transparent? Is it normal to have the leader overtaking a lapped car during a SC period? (Lapped cars could be allowed to overtake SC)? Is it normal to have the leader ceiding his first place during SC? Is it normal to have a lapped car fighting with the leaders at restart? seriously? If you don’t see where the problem is, maybe you’d should look F1 more often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS Phil 214 Posted August 21 Releasing a video on a buggy feature (dozen of report never read and investigate by CM) is somewhat sarcastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyqlzCPjFwk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS Phil 214 Posted August 21 1 hour ago, ostendorfjens said: Uh, what exactly am I looking at here? Okay, the message that Bottas was ceding position doesn't seem logical, particularly since it only appeared for, like, three seconds, but his penalty suggests that you should really have tried to pass him. If you had and if the game had then told you to relinquish the position again because of an illegal overtake, you'd have known what's up. Since you didn't, there's no way to really determine what went wrong. To be honest, I don't even know what you're complaining about here. (But maybe I didn't get your meaning correctly - I'm still German, English's not my native tongue.) For your information, Bottas received a penalty for overtaking Russel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS Phil 214 Posted August 21 Please @BarryBL could you review my bug template and give your opinion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarryBL 4,314 Posted August 21 57 minutes ago, RS Phil said: Please @BarryBL could you review my bug template and give your opinion? Under review now @RS Phil. Because of the issue, and how difficult I'm guessing this will be to replicate, I am currently in a conversation with Developers for any additional information they may need. As you know, internal replication is needed to find the diagnosis of the issue, and this one could be a difficult one to nail down a Method Of Replication. Your report has been passed on, but I'm sure I'll be coming back with some more questions as soon as I possibly can. Thank you for the excellent reporting however, really high standard. 👍 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarryBL 4,314 Posted August 21 Also, if other users have experienced this, please add a video and follow the excellent standard @RS Phil has set. This will be a hard find, so the more information we can get, the better chance we have of finding why this happened. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS Phil 214 Posted August 21 (edited) Thank you @BarryBL for your work. I’m of course at your disposal if you want more information. i agree with you, it’s very difficult to replicate since each situation is different. Here we face a problem with a car (Williams) almost being lapped by the leader (Bottas). IRL, Russel should have been allowed probably to overtake the SC, but as far as I know in the game, this is not implemented. So maybe this is why Russel became transparent. What is wrong is that after Bottas (leader) and I have overtaken Russel, I could overtake the leader on SC period. I had this message just 2 or 3 seconds and I even did not notice it during the race. I saw it in the video afterwards. This is not in the video, but at restart Russel had a fight with me and Bottas. Strange. Anyway, thanks for your collaboration. Edited August 21 by RS Phil 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarryBL 4,314 Posted August 21 2 hours ago, RS Phil said: Please @BarryBL could you review my bug template and give your opinion? As promised @RS Phil, some questions 😄 What events took place for the Williams to be at the head of the train behind the SC? In theory, the SC is designed to pick up the leader, which it has not done. Did Russell pit and re-join ahead of the SC? Were Hamilton/Vettel/Ocon/Kvyat still in the race at that point or were they out of the race? When was the SC called out? How many laps had been under the SC before you experienced this issue? Has this been experienced elsewhere? Like previously mentioned, this will be a difficult one to nail down. But, we'll give it a good try. 👍 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS Phil 214 Posted August 21 (edited) Thanks @BarryBL for your help. 1. Not sure about that but Bottas was about to lap Russel and was just behind when SC was called. But indeed on a 2 stop strat for almost everyone, I pitted 2 laps before. So it is possible that Russel was coming out of the pits at this moment. 2. You’re right Hamilton, Vettel, Ocon and Kyvat were out of the race. 3. The SC came out on lap 43/56 when Ocon span trying to overtake me at turn 13. 4. I was at turn 14 when SC came out and I rejoin Russel and Bottas under SC at turn 6. The incident in video happened just 1 lap under SC. 5. No. I had 3 SC so far but maybe without a lapped car between leader and SC. Your guess is maybe right. When the SC came out and the leader is about to come close to a car that is going to be a lap down but not yet overtaken. Normally in this situation, SC should have let Russel overtake and came just in front of Bottas but I did not verify in the replay unfortunately. Agree with you. Even more complicated to reproduce with a car almost lapped. Now what about the message saying that I can overtake the leader conceding his first place? Edited August 21 by RS Phil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
