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If you don't play Pro Season, then I'm not surprised you don't praise F1 2015

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Crunch630 said:
After reading every typical 'CM-bashing' comment around the Web, I just wish to offer a full defence for F1 2015.

Even though you may like splitscreen, classic cars, career mode or safety cars, you're not even playing the game Codies have been developing for the past two years if you're not playing Pro Season.

If you think that doing sh#tty 25% races with a driving line is all the gameplay content in F1 2015, then you are mistaken.

The point remains that F1 2015 is fundamentally about Pro Season,

-Where you're spending those 4 hours worth of practice sessions to really nail in your setup because the setup system has changed for the first time in the series' history (recall how compatible setups were between games previously?) in an attempt to beat the Mercedes'. I for one am greatly enjoying deciphering the 'ins-and-outs' of the new system with the differential and ballast - using up your allotted tyres for each practice session before the FIA takes them away etc.

-Where you're having a wild ride for 90 or so minutes, on the greatest difficulty without driver aids - testing the skills you've gained from the previous games.

-Where you're learning skills that the F1 series hasn't had before; using your mirrors because you're in cockpit view, or talking to your engineer in a team trusting relationship because you have no HUD. It's thrilling stuff when you have to confide in your engineer to be your brains as you don't have all the numbers at your disposal.

I urge everyone to try Pro Season if you've been avoiding it, as then, you'll be singing a different song about the game in general. I'm enjoying F1 2015 more than I've been enjoying Project CARS, because F1 2015 is far more immersive in its 'broadcast' presentation, F1 licence, and detail in what makes F1 micro-management thrilling.


So basically, because it suits you, it's good? Grow up.


It's great that it suits you, but why not make the options and modes customiseable so everyone can make it suit them?

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Can I just point out that technically pro season has been available since 2010? Turn the AI up to max, go to cockpit cam and turn off the HUD lol... Codies are trying to make this seem like a new feature when in fact we've had this option for 5 years...


Exactly. All the game modes are available to us, if we were just able to change the options.


I want to do 3 Practice sessions, a full weekend, on quick race mode, so I can choose my track, HUD, Camera etc. Hell, I could do it before the day one patch! Then they patched the 3 practices out!

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Crunch630 said:
sodayi said:

I gave the mode a try and guess what? All driving-assists were activated even if the Option says "off".

Sounds very "PRO" to me...

Sorry to tell you, but the game is a joke. It's more like a very expensive demo with the lack of Features.


By the way, every racing game has a "promode". Just turn off the Assists, max the difficulty and drive from Cockpitview. There you go...

It's no NEW mode, it's just the Championshipmode where you are forced to go without assists...wow, great game.

As I said, a very expensive DEMO!

As I said previously, I'm sorry about the PC version's problems. The fact that all assists are on sucks, but I have no doubt that it'll patched, so it's all good.

And of course every game has a 'pro-mode', however this Pro Season is deliberately placed by Codemasters because they KNOW that their game is light on prominent features that critics and casuals would notice. Surely, you've been playing the previous games and recognise the new features that F1 2015 brings? The racing has been upgraded dramatically. Pro Season is deliberately on the main menu because they know that that's where the game shines in its immersion, so they want to highlight said aspect. All the casual players of the world don't push the boundaries enough to find the real meat of the game, and that meat is exactly what the game is with this installment. I have no doubt that next year's game will bring more features. F1 2015 is great in what it has.

Finally, to call the game an 'expensive demo' is being disingenuous. How many demos do you know that come with two fully licenced grids and tracks? With complete racing features, except one (the Safety car)? It's a fully fledged next-gen F1 game. It's brilliant.

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I also want to stress that I don't come here to lecture forum members who post already; I wanted to make a forum thread where I can link people from other websites to my views on the game.

Oh I forgot to mention: I played on Xbox One.


FIFA Demo always has 6-10 full squads. Thats more than 60 Players. In a demo.

F1 2015 only has ONE offline Gamemode, and in my opinion, it's not worth the 70€ I paid for it.


Even the Options that you can Change, are very limited. You can decide between a short Weekend, normal Weekend and full Weekend. I guess, many of the gamers want full qualifcation but not 100% of the racedistance. No Chance you are able to set this up in F1 2015.


I remember the release by EA Sports NHL15, first time for nextgen. Some of the known gamemodes were gone and the Gamers were upset. But EA took the time to get the game patched and include some of the missing modes. Sure, wasn't perfect at all, but at least they tried and silenced many critics.

Codemasters already issued a Statement, that no careermode or anything like it will be included via patch or dlc.


Good Support for your paying customers

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Can I just say as well, I'm in a wet race, and this engineer has now told me about increasing the front wing to help with change in weather about 15+ times already, and I have about another 40 laps to go yet ffs!!!  It's stuff like this that ruins it he's like a broken record lol.

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DarthJW said:
The difficulty with the voice only coming into the ps4 pad is that you have to be in a reasonably quiet environment for it to work at the best of times.
if you have noise in the room or you have your TV up so you can hear the actual game sound then it affects the voice recognition.  I know it's not like Siri, I know you have to say exactly what's on screen etc, it would be just better the voice volume overall was louder.  
For example, after tinkering, I'm currently using my surround sound system, with an earphone lead connected to my DS4 (it's actually a pair of Samsung Galaxy headphones that work no problem in voice chats etc.)  and on and off yes the voice thing does work, and I can hear the response either through the earphones or the TV.  Using the surround seems to separate it a little better.  However this all goes out the window if you wanted to do this late at night for example or when only using the TV or having All the sound coming through your headset, that's where you get problems, it's all mixed and you can't hear him which is why it needs some sort of Tweaking for people who are playing it with the standard TV setup etc.. See? 
Are you not able to put all audio into your headphones? 

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Stop going on and on about Pro Season It's not a new feature anyone can do that you just turn the assets off. And besides it will be deleted out next year anyway.
People are angry because it's not a next-generation game graphics are terrible compared to F1 2013 Codemaster's have just been bone idle for the last two years.


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Odemdemz said:
DarthJW said:
The difficulty with the voice only coming into the ps4 pad is that you have to be in a reasonably quiet environment for it to work at the best of times.
if you have noise in the room or you have your TV up so you can hear the actual game sound then it affects the voice recognition.  I know it's not like Siri, I know you have to say exactly what's on screen etc, it would be just better the voice volume overall was louder.  
For example, after tinkering, I'm currently using my surround sound system, with an earphone lead connected to my DS4 (it's actually a pair of Samsung Galaxy headphones that work no problem in voice chats etc.)  and on and off yes the voice thing does work, and I can hear the response either through the earphones or the TV.  Using the surround seems to separate it a little better.  However this all goes out the window if you wanted to do this late at night for example or when only using the TV or having All the sound coming through your headset, that's where you get problems, it's all mixed and you can't hear him which is why it needs some sort of Tweaking for people who are playing it with the standard TV setup etc.. See? 
Are you not able to put all audio into your headphones? 
Well, yes I can.... But that's the problem.... Doing that you can't hear the engineer properly !!

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I think pit strategies are also fu**ed to a point.  Was on a 3 stop, came in stop 1 all is well, however near stop 2 I switched to prime planning to go to the end of the race.  Even the engineer as I left the pits said were good on these till end of the race.  But with about 10 laps to go he tells me the pit window is open and to pit now (which I ignored) otherwise I'd have been down positions if I'd have listened. It doesn't seem to update on the fly.

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One question for those who have already played Pro Season Mode, how do we check the split times during a lap as we no longer have HUD?

thanks

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You rely on the engineer telling you the gaps/ are they not on the hud on the steering wheel.

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Thanks DarthJW, even during practices laps engineer will tell you the gaps?  Do we need to ask or they tell you every time that you cross the split line?

my best!

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Well I had a look, but it seems in practice etc you only see you current lap time on the wheel dash not the split times for each sector.  For that it looks like you have to either go back to garage and look at the session info or rely on engineer telling you which sector you are slower in etc.

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That is what I was afraid, I don't care about not having HUD, but at least we should have our time together with either gap or split times, like in real Formula 1. But as F1 2015 is missing too many things I think it is at the bottom of the priorities

thanks for your info I live in Brazil so I have to wait until July 24

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PauloRic said:
That is what I was afraid, I don't care about not having HUD, but at least we should have our time together with either gap or split times, like in real Formula 1. But as F1 2015 is missing too many things I think it is at the bottom of the priorities

thanks for your info I live in Brazil so I have to wait until July 24

As a new feature, I presume the engineer will be expanded with that sort of stuff in later games. I've never needed to use the 'oversteer', 'understeer' or 'traction' advice either.

Currently, you need to go out on some decent fuel, set a few laps, and then use the monitor in the garage when you return to view your sector times and how they differ to other cars. Case in point: I just finished my race at China, and the Red Bull I'm driving was always the fastest thing on track in the first sector. Sector two and three were slow comparatively, so I turned down the downforce and went back to see if I could make the deficit. It worked well. I could see the difference in sector times it made. It made sector 1 slower, but sector two and three went up.

Also, at the end of each session, you can use the race director to view all cars laps. So if you are particularly in depth with it, you can analyse those as well, but I don't as I think that's even too hardcore for me.
Can I just point out that technically pro season has been available since 2010? Turn the AI up to max, go to cockpit cam and turn off the HUD lol... Codies are trying to make this seem like a new feature when in fact we've had this option for 5 years...
I don't know where you've been, but it is a new feature.

Try and turn the HUD off in a 100% race on any previous games (for clarity, that means five previous games in total).

It doesn't work, because the mirrors do not function.

It doesn't work, because you can't talk to the engineer.

Pro Season is literally a tech demonstration of the next-gen F1 games. And if you're not playing in Pro Season, I'm not surprised that you think there's no new features.

Try out Pro Season and report back.

ckevinc1 said:
Stop going on and on about Pro Season It's not a new feature anyone can do that you just turn the assets off. And besides it will be deleted out next year anyway.
People are angry because it's not a next-generation game graphics are terrible compared to F1 2013 Codemaster's have just been bone idle for the last two years.


You must be playing a different game then. The graphics have been improved dramatically. It's very next-gen for the F1 games, and the graphic will continue to get better as the generation goes on.
Gav25182 said:

So basically, because it suits you, it's good? Grow up.


It's great that it suits you, but why not make the options and modes customiseable so everyone can make it suit them?

As I said previously, if you're not willing to invest the time to find out what actually changed in this new game, then I can't help you.

I forgot to mention in my previous posts concerning time: that's why mid-session saves have been around since F1 2013. I recommend you use them in Pro Season.

And once again, when insults fly, your legitimacy goes downhill. I'm 20 years old.

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