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Hello everyone,

So this is the first F1 game for me that includes the Paul Ricard circuit in France. After having to learn both Vietnam and Netherlands from scratch (which went rather fast) I was excited about learning France.
Even though the races in France in real life might have been boring, the track looks like a lot of fun to drive in the game. 
But I'm REALLY struggling this time. Sector 3 is an absolute pain to nail the corners. You have that flat out right hander and then the corner afterwards is a brake, coast, throttle right hander that I can't seem to get right. 
Usually when I'm trying to learn a new circuit I don't always aim to constantly beat my best lap time because that's simply not going to happen, but I'm training myself for consistency. If I'm not beating my best laptime but I'm within 1-2 tenths of it, then I'd say I'm driving the track rather consistently. 

However, I've never ever had to learn a track where a very small error can make such a huge difference. On all the other tracks I've learned so far, if you don't NAIL the corner you might lose a few thousands, but on Paul Ricard if you don't NAIL the first two corners, boom, you're 4 tenths down. My god this track is punishing. And sector 3 is just horrible to get right on a controller at least, not sure how it is for wheel users. 

I don't want to say that I hate this track, in fact, I want to love this track and I'm determined to keep grinding laps in time trial to get this track right. I mean, it's a long process. After playing 4 seasons in F1 2017 I still noticed myself improving on tracks in later seasons just because I've driven hundreds of laps on them already. 
I know this will take time and practice to create that muscle memory, but I cannot remember ever learning a track that is so punishing. 
In time trial it's a little bit stupid as well, you clip the outside kerb on the exit of turn 2? Okay, lap invalidated. You completely cut the kerb on turn 7? Okay that's fine. 
It's a bit weird tbh.

So my questions are:
-Have you guys ever struggled for way longer than usual on learning a particular track?
-Which track, no matter how much you practice, you keep being bad at? Mine has to be Bahrain, god I hate that horrible creation.
-My best laptime in France so far is a 1:29.172, I'm assuming that's not really a good lap right? I'm in 2605 on the leaderboard on PC but that seems very far off from what I could achieve. So yea, is a low 1:29 bad on Paul Ricard?

Thanks in advance

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I admire your determination!

Unfortunately I cannot give any advice on this track. I've only lapped in 5 times since it was introduced. Just makes me sick somehow. I don't know if it's the weird astroturf or the lack of reference points or what. It's also way too wide for my taste, and frankly, the few laps I did I got lost on most of them and turned into a dead-end. :classic_biggrin:

In terms of the questions outlined at the end, I can concur with Bahrain. I feel fast driving it, but the stopwatch tells a whole different story. No matter how much I try I'm just way off on one-lap pace, which is weird since I was better at it in previous iterations of the game compared to the competition. Other problematic tracks for me include China, USA, Mexico and Abu Dhabi. What do they have in common? Hermann Tilke. It's kind of funny, because on Tilke's street circuits like Sochi, Baku and Singapore I seem to thrive. The difference is that the latter have natural corners not drawn by the designer himself. Somehow these long tightening radial curves and sharp-angle turns that Tilke likes to draw just don't suit my style.

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I hate the (lack of) scenery, but think Paul Ricard is a really good challenge. 

Might seem counter intuitive, but try reducing your pace to the point where you’re able to lap relatively consistently & without ever leaving the racing line. 

If you can do that, then you can start chasing a faster lap time by getting on the throttle earlier & smoother coming out of corners because you’re already on the best line into & through it. 

Relying on “muscle memory” is a dead end, imo. One little thing i.e. you pinch the inside front under braking & all of a sudden you’re lost at sea because muscle memory stops you from adapting to the situation.

Doing a 100% race distance paying no attention to your lap times or position on the leaderboard also helps. 

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I have not had problems learning this track, and I am on a controller. This track is just driving porn like Suzuka. As Jeff says, late apexes is the style here. Sector 3 even highlights this to a greater extent. You need a car that is stable and responsive for this track. You are going to need to use some of the kerbs in sectors 1 and 2, but you will want to avoid all the kerbs in sector 3. It is not that much a brake-accelerate “stop and go” circuit, and it is not that much a late braking track. It seems to also suit slow and smooth steering. Trail braking is also great for sector 3. 
 

I am sturggling to get grips with USA. I don’t know what it is, but I just cannot get a decent time Sector 1 and 2. I think this could be brake setup, and I plan to try 53% brake bias instead of 50%. I have been learning USA for 4 days now, since this is the first time I have reached USA in the F1 codemasters games. Bahrain seems to be fine for me. It’s another track that I am not great in terms of speed, but I can drive extremely consistent laps. 

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Well going to give it another few hours of practicing. Not going to stop before I tick the 100 laps done on the circuit. 
About what Guga_Cyr said, yea I always do 100% races. They're a great way to get to know a track in- and out. 

And regarding my first post, is a 1:29.172 a decent lap on Paul Ricard or not? 🤔

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Alright, 25 laps in and a set of very sweaty hands... my personal best lap just became 1:28.646. 

1238 on the leaderboard. And I feel like I can still find 2-3 tenths.

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Hi just popping on to say I absolutely love this track, one of my favourites on the game. 

 

Have fun!

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@KNT2011 please pop up more often, missed you sweetie.

I'm here just perusing the thread from time to time. I really like France and Bahrain is one of my favorite tracks, including (if not specially) the canted left hander.

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