svensenk86 158 Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Hey guys, Just wondering,how long do I need training to get back to my pad laptimes with a wheel? Just bought one yesterday and was doing some laps to edit my values that the wheel does what i want. But i am not even close to my pad times,2-3 sec slower. I use ABS,traction contr middle,gears auto,the rest switched off. Shall i go directly for gears manual? Or trying first reaching laptimes with my pad settings? Damn that looks like a long way ahead. I have got the t80 now,just to get used to it. My last wheel was a Logitech when I played Grand Prix 3 😄 so quite a while ago Edited November 22, 2020 by svensenk86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ioann977 5 Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) At first play with the same assists you used to play with pad. Just matter of 2-3 days to get used to it (depending on the hours you playing). After you reach your lap times just start to remove assists by one at the time. Enjoy your new wheel Edited November 22, 2020 by ioann977 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spivey-CJ 0 Posted November 22, 2020 Agreed, took 3-4 practice sessions with wheel then was faster than with pad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USPBauer24 90 Posted November 22, 2020 My advice would be to turn off all assists from the start to avoid becoming too used to them. Just do laps in time trial. It takes a while but you have to keep at it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SixtoRodriguez 13 Posted November 23, 2020 19 hours ago, svensenk86 said: Hey guys, Just wondering,how long do I need training to get back to my pad laptimes with a wheel? Just bought one yesterday and was doing some laps to edit my values that the wheel does what i want. But i am not even close to my pad times,2-3 sec slower. I use ABS,traction contr middle,gears auto,the rest switched off. Shall i go directly for gears manual? Or trying first reaching laptimes with my pad settings? Damn that looks like a long way ahead. I have got the t80 now,just to get used to it. My last wheel was a Logitech when I played Grand Prix 3 😄 so quite a while ago I bought the T300 this summer and finally made the switch from pad to wheel. I wasn't using any assits on the pad except automatic shifting. So manual shifting was something that I had to get used to, however, it only took me a couple of hours. Personally, I find that using the pedals is more difficult. I just couldn't find my rhythm in the beginning and it definitly took me more than 10-15h to get used to it. I'd say it took me a full season (race length: 50%) to really get used to the wheel and become fast. Setting the linearity for acceleration and breaking to 50% helped me a lot - especially with the breaking. After 2 full seasons, I'm about 2 sec faster per lap than on the pad. The difference in accuracy, handling in general and being able to put in constant lap times is huge - in particular on tracks like Silverstone or Suzuka. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svensenk86 158 Posted November 23, 2020 Quote he difference in accuracy, handling in general and being able to put in constant lap times is huge - in particular on tracks like Silverstone or Suzuka. I agree mate with SIlverstone and Suzuka, the accuracy I feel as well. The rest is like you wrote, getting used to it takes a while. I am still not able to match my pad times...but time will come, I will keep learning ;) thanks guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PJTierney 5,239 Posted November 23, 2020 Get your wheel calibration sorted as early as you can, as learning with "poor" wheel settings will take longer 🙂 Lots of guides on YouTube, and some wheel manufacturers have recommended settings too so try those out. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svensenk86 158 Posted November 23, 2020 That was my first approach,to feel the correct feedback from the wheel. I think I found a sweet spot where I feel comfortable with. It is now just getting used to it,as written my last wheel was with Grand Prix 3... The toughest to get used to is not throwing the stick into one direction,now I have to steer really especially China first long corner for example 😄 my laptimes which I set with the pad were pretty good,tough to get there...right now 2sec plus...but hey,gettimg used to it more and more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PJTierney 5,239 Posted November 23, 2020 It took me a while too. I learned in rally (with an F1 rim) so transitioning to F1 wasn't hard for me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svensenk86 158 Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Mate seriously, that looks awesome 😎 i cannot share mine because it is kind of embarassing 🙈😄 but if I would have that kind of gaming set I would need choose between my wife and the gaming 😂 sometimes I feel second 😄 No man I have to build up my wheel and pedals everytime I play and store it afterwards 😄 but for the first impression it works. It will be improved in a later stage when I have a proper plan for it and storage space 😉 Made my first race against 90 AI in Bahrain from 14 to p7 with Mercedes without any damages or trips away from the track. Still a long way though,but I was always pretty solid in racing games so I am looking forward 😎 Edited November 23, 2020 by svensenk86 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir_Overtakesalot 202 Posted November 23, 2020 On 11/22/2020 at 3:46 PM, USPBauer24 said: My advice would be to turn off all assists from the start to avoid becoming too used to them. Just do laps in time trial. It takes a while but you have to keep at it. I agree completely. At the tail end of F1 2019, I started exploring with no assists. I was a regular when it came to TC medium and Anti lock brakes on. I couldn't imagine driving without them. When I bought 2020, I made the decision to never turn assists on from day 1. It was the best decision I ever made.... in terms of gaming. Eventually you'll figure out how to get faster. With time and practice comes success. I still play F1 2019 Featured Events. I can now also drive there very well with no Assists. I've actually won 2 events. The most recent was the Canada featured event. The German Event that just passed, I placed P2. I guess my point is, as hard as it seems right now to get your lap times back closer, or even better than your pad times. You WILL get there. Don't get discouraged. Put in the Time and you'll see results. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SixtoRodriguez 13 Posted November 24, 2020 14 hours ago, svensenk86 said: Mate seriously, that looks awesome 😎 i cannot share mine because it is kind of embarassing 🙈😄 but if I would have that kind of gaming set I would need choose between my wife and the gaming 😂 sometimes I feel second 😄 No man I have to build up my wheel and pedals everytime I play and store it afterwards 😄 but for the first impression it works. It will be improved in a later stage when I have a proper plan for it and storage space 😉 Made my first race against 90 AI in Bahrain from 14 to p7 with Mercedes without any damages or trips away from the track. Still a long way though,but I was always pretty solid in racing games so I am looking forward 😎 AI 90? Damn, I thought you're struggling mate, but actually you're killing it. I just increased the AI to 70 and found it pretty challenging. 😅 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svensenk86 158 Posted November 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, SixtoRodriguez said: AI 90? Damn, I thought you're struggling mate, but actually you're killing it. I just increased the AI to 70 and found it pretty challenging. 😅 hi mate, yesterday I have made 3 GP`s to get used to drive against the AI with the wheel and used my old AI settings ;) made a 50% race in Baku (AI 91) with Albon, P16 to P14, just needed 3 flashbacks result of not used to drive with used tires ;) one in Silverstone (AI 91) 25% with Stroll P14 to P7 and one in China (AI 92) with Bottas just 5 laps P3 to P4. I did a quick qualifying before to see where my times are. So that was quite well, I was happy with the races. Still need more training to get used to race against AI cars with the wheel, some more single GP`s then I can go back to myTeam I hope. Thanks for your advice guys! Cheers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lukamesecfanboy 2 Posted November 24, 2020 On 11/22/2020 at 11:04 AM, svensenk86 said: Hey guys, Just wondering,how long do I need training to get back to my pad laptimes with a wheel? Just bought one yesterday and was doing some laps to edit my values that the wheel does what i want. But i am not even close to my pad times,2-3 sec slower. I use ABS,traction contr middle,gears auto,the rest switched off. Shall i go directly for gears manual? Or trying first reaching laptimes with my pad settings? Damn that looks like a long way ahead. I have got the t80 now,just to get used to it. My last wheel was a Logitech when I played Grand Prix 3 😄 so quite a while ago Well it might take you a while, not gonna lie. On the pad i was using around 100 AI, with the wheel I had to go back to 90 AI and only after 3 months was I able to get to 105 AI. Gears you should absolutely go manual, try to go with TC off as soon as you can but you can take your time with the ABS. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svensenk86 158 Posted November 27, 2020 hi guys, so I switched to automatic shifting now, made my first myTeam race again with that, Canada was my savegame ;) AI 96 50% length, my race was ok, I was in P12 just all the time and 4 laps before the end the wall of champions got me, DNF - anyhow, the race was clean and stable until that crash, getting used to it. I bought a Wheel Stand as well in the meantime, makes everything better :) thanks for your tipps here guys. Cheers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamFreeman 224 Posted November 27, 2020 I was initially a few seconds off pace managed to get back thereabouts 95 AI in a few race weekends. Time wise I get better traction and break feeling woth the pad cause of break feedback and the fact that on pad you can go full lock to full lock in a twiddle of a thumb! Reckon deep down Id be half a second ul on a pad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svensenk86 158 Posted November 28, 2020 Just realized yesterday in Austria,that my throttle pedal just goes to 83% and my brakes till 72%....and I wondered why I cannot match my pad time....adjusted,2 laps in TT, pad time equalized by 0,5sec 😄 seriously I was doing 30 laps before I realized smth is wrong with my power output 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlosSantos87 186 Posted November 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, svensenk86 said: Just realized yesterday in Austria,that my throttle pedal just goes to 83% and my brakes till 72%....and I wondered why I cannot match my pad time....adjusted,2 laps in TT, pad time equalized by 0,5sec 😄 seriously I was doing 30 laps before I realized smth is wrong with my power output You have to test your wheel mate in the Controller Settings Calibration tab.. after press the throttle pedal and check if the bar hits the 100%.. do the same thing in the brake pedal.. if you aren't at 100% (what I think that could be your case) you have to put some Saturation values.. put 5 for starting and check.. put 10 and check.. if you hit the 100 % the Calibration is done.. but you probably could have some problem in your pedals.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svensenk86 158 Posted November 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, CarlosSantos87 said: You have to test your wheel mate in the Controller Settings Calibration tab.. after press the throttle pedal and check if the bar hits the 100%.. do the same thing in the brake pedal.. if you aren't at 100% (what I think that could be your case) you have to put some Saturation values.. put 5 for starting and check.. put 10 and check.. if you hit the 100 % the Calibration is done.. but you probably could have some problem in your pedals.. I know mate,recognized this yesterday as I said in Austria...to my surprise I got second place in France with this setting 😄 but austria 100 AI showed me something is wrong...now pedals are both hitting 100% 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svensenk86 158 Posted November 28, 2020 See throttle and brake values that those come to 100% 🙈 it was at 5 before...well now it works much faster on the track 😎 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlosSantos87 186 Posted November 28, 2020 3 hours ago, svensenk86 said: See throttle and brake values that those come to 100% 🙈 it was at 5 before...well now it works much faster on the track 😎 Glad mate.. problem solved 😀😀 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svensenk86 158 Posted December 4, 2020 so I am back at my old AI levels which I figured out for me. back at the top of the grid - so much fun with manual shifting, damn I missed that 🙂 took really some time to get used to it but once you have the wheel feeling you ask yourself "how could I play with a pad that long?" thanks for your advice here 😉 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
