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Yeah only time Hamilton has won any race in my career games is when Bottas has an issue of some sort, or his tyre strategy doesn't work as well. In pure speed terms he his way overpowered, Hamilton can't get near him in my games

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Epic fail by Codemasters. Can‘t be accepted. And of course they continue to ignore that issue. Tells you everything you need to know about their efforts...

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So @Codies @BarryBL when will Bottas driver stats finally become corrected? I am by no means a basher versus Bottas, but having him leading Hamilton by quite a point difference during myteam mode years 1+2 is not really too realistic, it seems to happen in every playthrough though. I would get it when he starts good into the season, giving Hamilton a hard time to stay in the lead, but at the moment it is more vice versa and poor Lewis hardly seems to stand a chance. I take it you guys are able to set driver stats in a way that results are close enough to the real thing, in other words time and time again Verstappen and others have to ensure there is even a gap between Lewis and Valtteri? Come on!

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Just had a race in Austria where Bottas had an extra pitstop and started on Mediums and still ended up winning. Hamilton on softs was faster but once Bottas was on softs he was over a second quicker than Hamilton and despite the extra stop he won comfortably

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Concerning this ever-lasting Bottas OP topic I have 2 questions:

  • can we mod this ourselves, can anyone throw me a pointer which data you have to edit to correct Bottas driver stats ourselves, if Codies are not willing to do this?
  • did anyone ever receive a reply from the developers concerning this topic? Are there any valid reasons for the stats as they are and where was that documented?

Thanks!

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1 hour ago, Schneehase said:

Concerning this ever-lasting Bottas OP topic I have 2 questions:

  • can we mod this ourselves, can anyone throw me a pointer which data you have to edit to correct Bottas driver stats ourselves, if Codies are not willing to do this?
  • did anyone ever receive a reply from the developers concerning this topic? Are there any valid reasons for the stats as they are and where was that documented?

Thanks!

First point: Unfortunately not. All driver performance data is encrypted, while car performance data is moddable.

Second point: I don't believe so, no, unless someone can correct me. I've asked directly a couple of times and had nothing back myself.

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Codemasters not adressing this issue makes me believe they aren‘t actually playing their own game. Which means their only real interest with this game is in making money. 

A game developer who is solely profit oriented but not actually interested and passionately invested in their product is always a bad sign for it’s customers.

If they would play their game, they would have learned about this issue without us even having to point it to them.

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2 hours ago, AllenB2609 said:

Codemasters not adressing this issue makes me believe they aren‘t actually playing their own game. Which means their only real interest with this game is in making money. 

A game developer who is solely profit oriented but not actually interested and passionately invested in their product is always a bad sign for it’s customers.

If they would play their game, they would have learned about this issue without us even having to point it to them.

What are you talking about? Stop complaining.. buy some Pitcoins and “treat yourself in the store!!” 🤡

This is all you need to know about Codemasters priorities 👇

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5 hours ago, AllenB2609 said:

Codemasters not adressing this issue makes me believe they aren‘t actually playing their own game. Which means their only real interest with this game is in making money. 

A game developer who is solely profit oriented but not actually interested and passionatelinvested in their product is always a bad sign for it’s customers.

If they would play their game, they would have learned about this issue without us even having to point it to them.

Well, to be fair, i don't think there is a lot of time to develope a game and also play a game. I mean, 365 days are not much in gaming development.
We're not talking about a AAA game wich had 3-4 years to develope, we are talking about an annual release.

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On 1/11/2021 at 4:44 PM, BarryBL said:

We have a update in the works at the moment @Gladystonff to represent the end of the F1 and F2 seasons. ETA unconfirmed at this exact time, but is in a advanced stage 👍

This was the last official statement on this back in January, we've since had the update and it made no difference to the issue. I've run multiple Driver Career saves to test this out and in every one (about 5 of them so far) Bottas dominates wins and poles in Season 1 every single time. I'll reiterate my suspicion that his and Hamilton's code have been swapped by accident. It should be Hamilton doing all these things.

Also, regarding the comment about how Codemasters don't play their games, I seem to remember a few years ago a statement (I'm guessing now just for PR) that Codemasters devs love to play their own games - if they really did, they would have spotted this long ago. You only have to play half a season to see there's something wrong.

If I was a dev, it just wouldn't sit right with me, the game's AI performance not reflecting reality. Hamilton's success is beyond meme-worthy, in real life you know he's going to win 9 times out of 10 (which is how Bottas is performing in Driver Career mode for me). So how can it be acceptable to state that F1 2020 is worthy of being called a sim (a statement made about a month before release), and yet completely ignore one major aspect of the way the game reflects reality?

Edit: I would add that if the game was as moddable as F1 2014 and before, we wouldn't have to pester the devs with these issues. We could just correct them ourselves.

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5 hours ago, s00zster said:

Also, regarding the comment about how Codemasters don't play their games, I seem to remember a few years ago a statement (I'm guessing now just for PR) that Codemasters devs love to play their own games - if they really did, they would have spotted this long ago. You only have to play half a season to see there's something wrong.

 

 

That is just cheap PR, otherwise where are the Codemaster employees in all the leagues around? See...

 

5 hours ago, s00zster said:

Edit: I would add that if the game was as moddable as F1 2014 and before, we wouldn't have to pester the devs with these issues. We could just correct them ourselves.

 

That is so true, and we have written this so many times before (Ferrari engines and the like) and it is beyond me, why the FIA license / F1 license would hinder them so let us mod performance and driver values. Would it really be such a bummer to see Latifi take a championship in a Williams? Why not let us have an editor and spare themselves all the criticism and further development.

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11 hours ago, s00zster said:

I'll reiterate my suspicion that his and Hamilton's code have been swapped by accident

 

I would buy that one a 100% - why cant we get @BarryBL to look into it?

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Several people have mentioned it before without any sort of response. It's incredibly frustrating.

I think it's one of four things:

 

1. Like what you all are saying; Bottas is using Hamilton's stats and Hamilton is using Bottas'.

 

2. Bottas AI is getting personnel bonuses still despite the fact all AI except your teammate should no longer be getting them. (As in, he's getting +10 stats where no one else).

 

3. Same as above except it's linked to the Merc second seat which Bottas just happens to start in. 

 

4. Awareness stat is giving more performance than expected.. Again I ask CM.. Why does Bottas have 99 and Hamilton 84? I can't begin to understand what possessed them to do that.

 

It's most likely the first though since Hamilton consistently performs badly and gets beaten by drivers with lower stats in slower cars regularly.

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I really like the game but this OP Bottas thing kind of ruin my immersion. Still hope they will fix it. That would be great.

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