F1 2021 game

[Ultra3142]

5 minutes ago, sirio994 said:

I'm very excited about the announcement. I didn't expect to see a combined PS4/PS5 version. It's great to be able to get both versions for those who will upgrade to PS5 and those like me who didn't sell their PS4 moving to PS5...

I think you were always going to be OK on this one, as the PS4 market must still dwarf the PS5 market so it would have made little commercial sense to launch a PS5 exclusive version. 

[sirio994]

5 minutes ago, Ultra3142 said:

I think you were always going to be OK on this one, as the PS4 market must still dwarf the PS5 market so it would have made little commercial sense to launch a PS5 exclusive version. 

I agree. But I wasn't sure about it because from what I know Moto GP is going to release two separate versions...

[Ultra3142]

Just now, sirio994 said:

I agree. But I wasn't sure about it because from what I know Moto GP is going to release two separate versions...

There will be a different PS5 version but this will almost certainly just differ in graphical performance rather than game features.

[GunDeviLnl]

For those asking if old and next gen can play with eachother, the answer is prob yes. I am playing on a ps5 and some of my friends are using a ps4

[VirtuaIceMan]

I'm surprised Codemasters didn't add 2020 real season too, so we could play both back-to-back as they happened. They did include 2014 in 2015 as it was a hardware transitional phase from PS3-PS4 (etc).

If they did, then they'd already be modelling Turkey 😂

[cpayne32]

i thought the trailer looked amazing and interesting. Also welcome back Devon Butler. Can wait to beat you again 🤣.

My question is, will codies/EA release a bundle that allows us to buy the game for PS4 and then transfer to PS5 like with Fifa. its the only thing putting me off preordering the game right now because i don't know if I will have a PS5 in time but want to play the game on release day.

[Ultra3142]

1 hour ago, GunDeviLnl said:

For those asking if old and next gen gameplay with eachother, the answer is prob yes. I am playing on a ps5 and some of nu friends are using a ps4

I thought that was the case. Thanks for clarifying .

[Ultra3142]

8 minutes ago, cpayne32 said:

i thought the trailer looked amazing and interesting. Also welcome back Devon Butler. Can wait to beat you again 🤣.

My question is, will codies/EA release a bundle that allows us to buy the game for PS4 and then transfer to PS5 like with Fifa. its the only thing putting me off preordering the game right now because i don't know if I will have a PS5 in time but want to play the game on release day.

The details released yesterday already covered this. As with many games there will be a free upgrade from PS4 to PS5 versions. 

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/f1/f1-2021/news/announcing-f1-2021

[cpayne32]

Just now, Ultra3142 said:

The details released yesterday already covered this. As with many games there will be a free upgrade from PS4 to PS5 versions. 

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/f1/f1-2021/news/announcing-f1-2021

Thank you for confirming this. Now to decide which version I want

[SAL_LippiArsenal]

2 hours ago, GunDeviLnl said:

For those asking if old and next gen gameplay with eachother, the answer is prob yes. I am playing on a ps5 and some of nu friends are using a ps4

That's acutally nothing new. It just the PS4 version of F1 2020 which the PS5 supports because of backwards compatibility. If no crossplay or whatever you want to call it is included, I assume this will be the only option to play together on both console generations.

[GunDeviLnl]

1 hour ago, SAL_LippiArsenal said:

That's acutally nothing new. It just the PS4 version of F1 2020 which the PS5 supports because of backwards compatibility. If no crossplay or whatever you want to call it is included, I assume this will be the only option to play together on both console generations.

I wasn't talking about crossplay between all platforms just ps4 with ps5 players. My bad

[smalls048]

I was just looking through the Microsoft Store and the braking point DLC page may offer some more information. It looks like weber isn't returning and that there are new radio voices as well.

The main page is also interesting

we were wondering if consoles were also getting raytracing and it looks like that is the case. However, it's not listed under the standard or deluxe editions only within the game itself. link for those who care:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/f1-2021/9n6j02vpg635?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

[StanleyGoodspeed]

I don’t get the excitement for this..

• No gameplay
• New tracks as post launch dlc.. right 🙄
• Fictional characters
• Confirmed microtransactions
• € 85 pricetag
• F1 2020 bugs never got fixed

I hope you guys enjoy it, but I just don’t get it.. It’s not for me anymore.   time for me to leave this forum, I guess.. 👋

[cpayne32]

7 minutes ago, StanleyGoodspeed said:

I don’t get the excitement for this..

• No gameplay
• New tracks as post launch dlc.. right 🙄
• Fictional characters
• Confirmed microtransactions
• € 85 pricetag
• F1 2020 bugs never got fixed

I hope you guys enjoy it, but I just don’t get it.. It’s not for me anymore.   time for me to leave this forum, I guess.. 👋

This is the reveal. There wasn’t going to be anything big although what they did reveal was very intriguing  There’s 3 months time launch and we will get plenty of news and gameplay before then. 

[Ultra3142]

15 minutes ago, StanleyGoodspeed said:

I don’t get the excitement for this..

Has there been much? I've seen more negative posts than positive!

I'll primarily be waiting to see if the performance improvements look worth having before potentially buying the new game, but even then may wait for the new tracks to be added and the no doubt many story mode bugs to at least start being addressed.

[BelgiumDude]

30 minutes ago, StanleyGoodspeed said:

I don’t get the excitement for this..

• No gameplay
• New tracks as post launch dlc.. right 🙄
• Fictional characters
• Confirmed microtransactions
• € 85 pricetag
• F1 2020 bugs never got fixed

I hope you guys enjoy it, but I just don’t get it.. It’s not for me anymore.   time for me to leave this forum, I guess.. 👋

Probably.

I don't get all the negativism. We almost know nothing. We got some information so why are we already geared up the trash a game where we know almost nothing about?

[TomAAA]

 

So they confirmed the won't have the real life track modifications for Australia Turns 11,12,13 (which is big) Singapore, Barcelona etc and not all tracks at launch.

So current track not resembling the major corner changes for this season, tracks missing and a cheesy story mode and now they are charging the more money for the game. The first time I won't be buying it a launch this year

[Ultra3142]

Am I the only one not surprised the new tracks will come post-launch? That's what I was rather expecting and it's obviously a lot better than them being omitted. When they may get added will of course be important.

The alternative could have been to delay the entire game launch until they were ready. This way we can all choose what to do .

[cpayne32]

16 minutes ago, TomAAA said:

 

So they confirmed the won't have the real life track modifications for Australia Turns 11,12,13 (which is big) Singapore, Barcelona etc and not all tracks at launch.

Can I ask where this has been confirmed. I’ve not heard or seen anything about this

[sjsharp2010]

1 hour ago, StanleyGoodspeed said:

I don’t get the excitement for this..

• No gameplay
• New tracks as post launch dlc.. right 🙄
• Fictional characters
• Confirmed microtransactions
• € 85 pricetag
• F1 2020 bugs never got fixed

I hope you guys enjoy it, but I just don’t get it.. It’s not for me anymore.   time for me to leave this forum, I guess.. 👋

Yeah I'm not really excited if the story mode looks good I could be persuaded but other than that I don' t see myself getting it either as I'm definitely tempted to skip a year seeing as I've not even touched 2020 yet despite buying it because I've mostly been busy just trying to finis hcareers on the earlier games atm. I mostly bought 2020 for the whole my team as it sounded intriguing managing and racing your own team and everything. I do have a team and everything planned out but because I've been so busy elsewhere I just haven't got started tbh. Also given I can race Imola on other games anyway it really only feels lik e2 new tracks for me and there are other games that for me that have my attention that are coming out in the summer anyway such as the Kena Bridge of Spirits game.

[sjsharp2010]

18 minutes ago, Ultra3142 said:

Am I the only one not surprised the new tracks will come post-launch? That's what I was rather expecting and it's obviously a lot better than them being omitted. When they may get added will of course be important.

The alternative could have been to delay the entire game launch until they were ready. This way we can all choose what to do .

I'd have waited until everything was read yt ogo but then that's just me but that's wha tyou get when people push for earlier and earlie rrelease dates a half assed job.

[Schneehase]

1 hour ago, StanleyGoodspeed said:

I don’t get the excitement for this..

• No gameplay
• New tracks as post launch dlc.. right 🙄
• Fictional characters
• Confirmed microtransactions
• € 85 pricetag
• F1 2020 bugs never got fixed

I hope you guys enjoy it, but I just don’t get it.. It’s not for me anymore.   time for me to leave this forum, I guess.. 👋

You wrote what I was thinking when i read the annoucement / watched the trailer. At 1st glance this seems disappointing, so I am eager to learn if the first impression would be correct, this time. About leaving, nah, this is the F1 2020 forums still, and I like that game. Might well be the community does a lot more editing and we just keep on playing that one^^ In case anyone finds a way to adress engine performance / driver performance settings, or AI behaviour passages in the code and how to edit those, PM me please.

[s00zster]

40 minutes ago, TomAAA said:

So they confirmed the won't have the real life track modifications for Australia Turns 11,12,13

Can you link us to where that's been confirmed?

[Chromatic]

1 hour ago, BelgiumDude said:

Probably.

I don't get all the negativism. We almost know nothing. We got some information so why are we already geared up the trash a game where we know almost nothing about?

Because it codemasters it's almost guaranteed and safe to assume, what features they may have. They'll still cut corners with unfinished games up to day one. To cash in on the hype.  

[Ialyrn]

13 minutes ago, Chromatic said:

Because it codemasters it's almost guaranteed and safe to assume, what features they may have. They'll still cut corners with unfinished games up to day one. To cash in on the hype.  

You will probably find there are some licensing items involved in their decisions to consistently release the F1 games before all the content is ready to release. Which does suck, I would rather the game come out later in the year with everything included from day one; especially when tracks will be missing in this year at release. But it is what it is.

[sjsharp2010]

2 hours ago, Ialyrn said:

You will probably find there are some licensing items involved in their decisions to consistently release the F1 games before all the content is ready to release. Which does suck, I would rather the game come out later in the year with everything included from day one; especially when tracks will be missing in this year at release. But it is what it is.

It's one of the reasons why I think I' dwait befoer jumping in assuming I decide I will.

[Cristopherm27]

are they going to add the setting where you can talk to Jeff via your headset when playing on Xbox Series X? where can you give suggestions to the developers? It would be cool if they can also add a setting where you can change the color of the visor on your helmet. 

[Ultra3142]

4 hours ago, s00zster said:

Can you link us to where that's been confirmed?

You weren't asking me but this was posted earlier in this thread:

 

[s00zster]

6 hours ago, Ultra3142 said:

You weren't asking me but this was posted earlier in this thread:

 

Thanks for that. He appears to be saying that he can't say anything about the track layouts. Not confirmed at all. Things like updated track layouts will be for later info releases, that's my guess. Thursday was all about general hype about main features.

[Ultra3142]

6 hours ago, s00zster said:

Thanks for that. He appears to be saying that he can't say anything about the track layouts. Not confirmed at all. Things like updated track layouts will be for later info releases, that's my guess. Thursday was all about general hype about main features.

FWIW my personal take on that post is that we're very unlikely to see the track changes in F1 2021. Time will tell.

[Sector4]

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[Gladystonff]

It is not so difficult to change the layout, as in F1 2019 the entry of Paul Richard's Pit was redone, this well after the launch of the game.

[BarryB]

On 4/16/2021 at 3:13 PM, Ultra3142 said:

Am I the only one not surprised the new tracks will come post-launch? That's what I was rather expecting and it's obviously a lot better than them being omitted. When they may get added will of course be important.

The alternative could have been to delay the entire game launch until they were ready. This way we can all choose what to do .

Not at all sir, you’re just being realistic, which is a fine approach imo. We all know the game will have it’s flaws and bugs and some of them will be fixed over time. But given the time needed to create new tracks in the game and with some of them only been recently announced as replacements, it would be very optimistic to expect all new tracks to be ready at the launch. 
 

And I agree also that it’s important that the new tracks won’t added too late, like for instance with the F2 update on the 2020 game in late December, when not only the season was already over, but finally having 2020 cars when you’re almost in 2021 was a very poor choice in their planning to say the least and something I hope they have learned from.

[Schneehase]

On 4/16/2021 at 4:12 PM, Ialyrn said:

You will probably find there are some licensing items involved in their decisions to consistently release the F1 games before all the content is ready to release. Which does suck, I would rather the game come out later in the year with everything included from day one; especially when tracks will be missing in this year at release. But it is what it is.

This would not work anyway, see 2020 and all the circuits they never released. Would have been a great DLC to pay for though, "F1 2020 track pack" might have payed for it, if priced reasonably (and would still do, i am more likely to continue play F1 2020 than buy the new EA stuff).

It is actually surprising FIA allows to call this "official F1 game" if not all tracks are included. Sure, 2020 pandemic year was "special" but for future iterations they should at least include the tracks that are in the official FIA calendar way before a season starts. If later due to covid-19 restrictions tracks are being swapped IRL, it would be ideal to have a (payed?) DLC in autumn, so you can at least re-play IRL F1 during the winter season.

[BarryB]

Many in here simply have wrong expectations when it comes to having all tracks included. In fact all tracks that where on the original F1 2021 calendar are included in the game. It is however due to circumstances that the calendar has recently changed and new circuits where added. Yet, still everyone expects those new tracks to be included immediately, while to make a track in an F1 game simply costs a lot of development time. The tracks we know right now that will be on the calendar will be added, but it takes time. And tracks that will possibly be added as replacements to the F1 calendar later this year should not be expected to be added to the game as well. It simply takes too much time to develop.

Sure if a track like Turkey will be added to the F1 calendar instead of for example Canada I’d love to race on it, but it’s just not a realistic expectation.

 

 

[Schneehase]

20 minutes ago, BarryB said:

while to make a track in an F1 game simply costs a lot of development time

How comes you know, are you from EA / codies staff 😄 ?

It might be so, but on the other hand this pays off several times, as you can re-use that data in upcoming releases (hardly will an F1 circuit only be driven once, they all have contracts for several years in advance and all of that is commonly known) and even if not, tracks like Imola and Kanada etc are classics that can well be released in a track DLC, where you regain a lot of the development costs. Also, these tracks do exist in other games and there might be the possibility to buy other (laser-scan) data to have something to start with. Should not be the problem for EA, should it.

[cpayne32]

10 minutes ago, Schneehase said:

How comes you know, are you from EA / codies staff 😄 ?

 

Codemasters staff have stated this on many other occasions that it takes a long time. Again, regardless of classic tracks (imola for example) they were made for a console that are now 2 generations old (assuming people have PS5/series x) so it would be more work to update that version then to start again. 
 

i have complete respect for all the staff at Codemasters and EA as they all work very hard to give the community the best game they can. Granted they aren’t always perfect but no game will ever be perfect either on release or by the end.

we have 3 months till release so they will be working extremely hard to make the game the best it can 

[Schneehase]

12 minutes ago, cpayne32 said:

we have 3 months till release so they will be working extremely hard to make the game the best it can 

I will give you an example. The F1 game series has an annual re-release. It was announced today, that in 2022 the miami street circuit will be included in the f1 calendar (by F1 boss Mr Domenicali). So, there is roughly 1 year+ of time until the 2022 version of the game will be released. Do we agree that is enough time to implement a new circuit into a game?

[Ultra3142]

I do find is somewhat strange when outsiders confidently state how something obviously makes commercial sense for Codemasters. Only they truly know their resources, the work involved, and have meaningful insight into the likely revenue from DLC. All we can sensibly do is discuss new features etc that we'd like to see but the rest really is up to them.

[Schneehase]

2 minutes ago, Ultra3142 said:

I do find is somewhat strange when outsiders confidently state how something obviously makes commercial sense for Codemasters. Only they truly know their resources, the work involved, and have meaningful insight into the likely revenue from DLC. All we can sensibly do is discuss new features etc that we'd like to see but the rest really is up to them.

100% agree, and the same is valid for how much effort it costs to implement new tracks.

[cpayne32]

12 minutes ago, Schneehase said:

I will give you an example. The F1 game series has an annual re-release. It was announced today, that in 2022 the miami street circuit will be included in the f1 calendar (by F1 boss Mr Domenicali). So, there is roughly 1 year+ of time until the 2022 version of the game will be released. Do we agree that is enough time to implement a new circuit into a game?

Absolutely agree. And with the layout announced they can start working on it once the track gets laser scanned

[Schneehase]

3 minutes ago, cpayne32 said:

Absolutely agree. And with the layout announced they can start working on it once the track gets laser scanned

Which may be the real problem under the pandemic as you need a team to be there doing the work. Not that in F1 2020 we had any laser scanned tracks though, correct me please if I should be mistaken.

[cpayne32]

1 minute ago, Schneehase said:

Which may be the real problem under the pandemic. Not that in F1 2020 we had any laser scanned tracks though, correct me please if I should be mistaken.

I believe they were but I can’t confirm/deny it as I don’t have this information. 

[Lakrits]

2 hours ago, Schneehase said:

This would not work anyway, see 2020 and all the circuits they never released. Would have been a great DLC to pay for though, "F1 2020 track pack" might have payed for it, if priced reasonably (and would still do, i am more likely to continue play F1 2020 than buy the new EA stuff).

It is actually surprising FIA allows to call this "official F1 game" if not all tracks are included. Sure, 2020 pandemic year was "special" but for future iterations they should at least include the tracks that are in the official FIA calendar way before a season starts. If later due to covid-19 restrictions tracks are being swapped IRL, it would be ideal to have a (payed?) DLC in autumn, so you can at least re-play IRL F1 during the winter season.

Which track of the official pre-season calender for 2020 isn't included in the game?

 

[cpayne32]

1 minute ago, Lakrits said:

Which track of the official pre-season calender for 2020 isn't included in the game?

 

Turkey, Portugal, imola, mugello, Nurburgring, 

[Lakrits]

Just now, cpayne32 said:

Turkey, Portugal, imola, mugello, Nurburgring, 

You didn't read my question.

 

[s00zster]

9 minutes ago, Schneehase said:

Which may be the real problem under the pandemic as you need a team to be there doing the work. Not that in F1 2020 we had any laser scanned tracks though, correct me please if I should be mistaken.

Zandvoort was laser scanned, was the first laser scanned track in an F1 series game. I believe it was because of the pandemic that they decided to acquire the laser data from the local authorities. Hopefully they'll be able to do this for Imola and Portimao too, especially if it means taking off a chunk of development time. According to Codies, a newly developed circuit takes around 1 year of man hours, so I'm not surprised me that a few new circuits will be late. I'm just happy we're getting them at all and for no extra cost.

[cpayne32]

Just now, Lakrits said:

You didn't read my question.

 

I thought you meant the updated calendar. From what I remember Australia, Monaco, Canada, Germany, Vietnam, China, Netherlands, Azerbaijan, France, Singapore, Japan, USA, Mexico, brazil

[Ialyrn]

F1 2020 was an oddball year, unexpected circumstancies that caused the pre season calander to be changed entirely after the pandemic picked up steam and shut sporting events down world wide. It was something done off the cuff to still give as full an F1 season as possible. It should be accepted that the F1 2020 game is fine how it was in that regard, without the later included tracks been in the game. I know I was and still am ok with that fact.

With regards to F1 2021, any tracks annouced pre season should be in the game at release. If some of those tracks are missing at release, the game should be released later in the year to allow appropriate development time. F1 2021 isnt in the same boat (currently) as F1 2020 was. Too many video games these days release in an uncompleted state, and its becoming annoying. Its the bane of video game existence at this point. I would prefer to buy the F1 game in November/December if it meant all the content was available day one. (to be clear, I am not talking about DLC contant that is created after the fact, or out right expansion packs that massivly increase gameplay potential. I am talking specifically about the core content a game is suppose to have from the outset. No game should release without that core content)

Any tracks that get potentially slotted in between now and the end of the current F1 season, should be left out of the game entriely like with last years title; as it is just not possible to build a track in anywhere less than 9 months as a bare minimum. And that becomes even harder todo with pandemic travel restrictions in place.

I am going to give Codemasters a semi-pass this year, purely due to the fact travel is still fairly restricted; and we are still in the grasp of the pandemic. But as customers, it is no wrong or misplaced for all of us to expect better practices in the future when it comes to the core content a game should have. Especially when it relates to real world sporting events and a circuit/stage calander for a racing game.
 

[Lakrits]

2 minutes ago, cpayne32 said:

I thought you meant the updated calendar. From what I remember Australia, Monaco, Canada, Germany, Vietnam, China, Netherlands, Azerbaijan, France, Singapore, Japan, USA, Mexico, brazil

My point is, I asked Schneehase which of the tracks that were on the original pre-season calendar that weren't in the game since I got the impression he ment not all tracks were. I apologise for that, it was I who hadn't read correctly since he ment for future versions of the game.

Still, there have been so many on this forum that's demanded all the actual tracks from the previous season not knowing the amount of work that means. I also think that all tracks should be in the game when it releases but I also know there's a lot of work behind getting them in. Normally a calendar is known well before the season starts, this year it hasn't been so the time is much shorter for the team to finish the work. I rather prefer the new tracks to come in later than not at all.