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2 hours ago, Shark2Racing said:

Whatever could be added will be welcome - now that Turkey will replace Singapore- and Austria replaced Kanada it will be again a broken season and have no hope that the full calendar will be implemented in the official game …..

 

 

The FIA don't know the official calendar at this stage* - if they don't I'm don't expect Codemasters/EA will be be able to do anything about it. 

*Mexico and Brazil expected to be cancelled - possible double header in Austin and/or Bahrain outer ring to replace them. 

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11 hours ago, MadEvilBeavis76 said:

I do not know why turkey is not in the game, because turkey was a track in the past and in the series of codemasters F1 Games. The most tracks are using the same assets like on the beginning of CM´s F1 series, they put only more details to the track. Look at spa they use the same assets since years.

Why they can´t use now the tracks of PCars and import the tracks for Portimao and Imola. Slightly Mad is Codemasters. PCars 2 tracks are much more like the originals. Portimao was in Grid2, the same for istambul and it looks good.

They must not produce new tracks in total. Only the Yeddah track. It would be better they concentrate more on the old tracks and not yeddah and give us more quality for the old tracks. No game has the yeddah track in a final version and the track is not final. They should use the time to create yeddah for the F1 2022 game to garanty more quality.

I'd happily pay £3.99 to race on turkey again 🤣

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to be honest, I'm a little disappointed. You don't get any information about the new routes, they said they'll come later for that, I understand. What I don't understand is that the game is more like an expensive update. why do I say this so hard? we were deprived of content. there are no more classic cars AND the short tracks no longer exist. Bahrain, Japan, USA and what else was there are no longer there. We just have to say that this is the real scandal. We only have 20 tracks in the game and nothing more. I'm really disappointed about that.

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For me the races are challenging of breaking point, but the story is a bit childish and full of clichees ala hollywood. It is easy listening. Sometimes the charakters acting more like in a cheesy soap. The cutscenes looking very good. It would be nice that with a new engine this were the in game graphic for cutscenes . All the drivers looking very good. The story is a linear story. You can nothing change in the story mode. You must drive with a default setup. It will entertain you for a while. It is more like a DLC. The story is scripted. You has no big influence to change something in the story. It is strict linear.

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Turkey is also back on the calendar indeed, and they SHOULD have the basic design for it already since it was in previous iterations of F1. Would love to go turn 8 there, but it should not be as slippery as last year 😛

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2 hours ago, KillingJoke197 said:

It is Turkey then. They included it as it is the supplement for Singapore. But only the flag and text, there is no track in the game.

Yepp. Türkei is how you write it in German.

Agreeing with you KillingJoke197. You can only tune in before or after this event. It is just there to represent the calender. Has anybody began driving in Austria twice?

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On 7/19/2021 at 9:31 AM, FTBuzzard said:

It says Grand Prix of Turkey 
and there is the turkish flag
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The real-life standings can be added to the game without having a full circuit to play on. That way if you wanted to start the season after that race the championship table would be accurate.

 

To the best of my knowledge, Turkey/Istanbul Park is not coming to F1 2021; if you got to that point in the calendar from a previous race it will be skipped.

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On 7/20/2021 at 7:25 AM, ritti1987 said:

to be honest, I'm a little disappointed. You don't get any information about the new routes, they said they'll come later for that, I understand. What I don't understand is that the game is more like an expensive update. why do I say this so hard? we were deprived of content. there are no more classic cars AND the short tracks no longer exist. Bahrain, Japan, USA and what else was there are no longer there. We just have to say that this is the real scandal. We only have 20 tracks in the game and nothing more. I'm really disappointed about that.

Classic cars were little used and short circuits were not used.

Are these big losses, no.

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10 minutes ago, Greg76110 said:

Classic cars were little used and short circuits were not used.

Are these big losses, no.

Short circuits were not used also because they were GP only.

Imagine using shorter versions in MyTeam last year, that would have been cool, especially that we didn't have Bahrain Outer.

Classic cars... yes I agree. At this point, only few people care about random classic cars. Instead, a lot of people would prefere an entire classic season to play, like 2003 Mod for 2020

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6 hours ago, Greg76110 said:

Classic cars were little used and short circuits were not used.

Are these big losses, no.

Whether the tracks were used or not does not matter at first. It's more about the fact that the 3 tracks are missing and that game content has also been removed. But in the end you pay the same or a little more than in 2020 and you can't compensate for that with braking point.

everyone uses the tracks differently, one more the other less, but I think the tracks would have been worth gold NOW to fill the racing calendar at least a little. especially with regard to online leagues.

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You've played one Tilke track, you've played them all 🙄   You could probably mash up a few of the other tracks' corners and you could make a track similar to Turkey. It's a shame about Turkey but not unexpected so can't really complain too much.

Hopefully the calendar is more stable next year so there'll be less of the track confusion.   In the meantime, we'll have to wait patientlyish for the other 3 tracks. I suspect this thread will get a lot of views in the meantime! 

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more tracks more tracks more tracks!!!

The community is begging for more tracks for years now, and what is CM doing they cut them. what a strategy.

in the past we had classic cars but with newest current track layouts, made no sense to play. (this mode is gone now anyway)

since CM has the F1 rights, they had these track from 2010-2020:

- Malaysian GP

- Turkey GP

- Europe GP (Valencia) 

- German GP (Nürburgring, Hockenheim)

- Korean GP

- Indian GP

Im ok that they disappear from the "official" calendar, but an option to activate them back for any Mode would be awesome. 

Now we have an official game and official calendar, which is not complete and never will be. 

Also some different layouts from tracks would be awesome, like Bahrain 2010, Bahrain short, Bahrain 2020 oval, to name a few.

Every year the same discussion, without success. 

It is what it is, definitely the last game for me to pay the full price game.

 

 

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7 hours ago, 2Pacalypse said:

more tracks more tracks more tracks!!!

The community is begging for more tracks for years now, and what is CM doing they cut them. what a strategy.
 

Thats not true.
I mean, codemastres cut tracks because they're not part of f1 anymore (Sepang, Valencia) 
 

And it's not like we're not getting any new tracks at all.
In F1 20 we got 2 brand new tracks (Zandvoort and Hanoi) and this year there are also 2 brand new tracks (Portimao and Jeddah) plus Imola returns to the series, which was last raced in 2013.

I think you can expect 2-3 new tracks every year, if the calendar is changed so far.

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27 minutes ago, FTBuzzard said:

Thats not true.
I mean, codemastres cut tracks because they're not part of f1 anymore (Sepang, Valencia) 
 

And it's not like we're not getting any new tracks at all.
In F1 20 we got 2 brand new tracks (Zandvoort and Hanoi) and this year there are also 2 brand new tracks (Portimao and Jeddah) plus Imola returns to the series, which was last raced in 2013.

I think you can expect 2-3 new tracks every year, if the calendar is changed so far.

Miami coming in next year. Russia changing their track in 2 years or so. Other tracks potentially changing on whims too like Brazil were going to Rio (but I think that's been canned) and Silverstone is always under threat and I think 2024 is their current end-date.

They'll always be under pressure to do some track work every year so I don't see them prepare to shoehorn random tracks into the calendar every year as that'll give them less reaction time to match the real world calendar if things change (as they seem to every other month atm) and if they do bring other tracks in and they aren't accurate to the millimetre then people will complain. 

3 seems to be their maximum track changes a year (and that's if the tracks have pre-existing data like Portimao and Imola had) so if the calendar quietens down where there aren't any changes, that's when i'd expect other tracks to be brought in. 

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On 7/18/2021 at 7:22 PM, steviejay69 said:

The expected timeline for the release is not yet publicly known.

It is clear on all release information and the EULA that the fulfilment will occur during the game’s lifecycle, that they are not available at release and will be ‘free’ once they are available.

I don't really like "free" stuff

I prefer FREE stuff

Or the best is just simple free stuff

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I think they must outsource the work of creating tracks. THe best solution is to release a new game every two years, not every year. Use a smaller team to supporting the previous and working instead for two years on the new game. For carreer mode you have automatically two different seasons with the old and new cars. I need not the F2 Cars every year instead the actual season from the last year. 
This game is really not done yet. 
I hope Codemasters give us support like on the previous games, because it is EA yet. 

But I have a very bad example of the near past. It is not a racing title but full price. The Mass Effect Legendary Edition. No support since 2 month. The only game. I have no hope that they do anything on the game. I think the big online reviewers and online press is a problem too. F1 becomes very high ratings from the most magazines the same for other titles like Mass Effect LE or Cybertrash 2077.
 

You cannot trust anymore the most online magazines or a lot of influencers. They pray for the game and tell us not how bugged the game really is. I´don´t know if they become different versions for testing sometimes. 
This new game is at the moment really in every discipline not done yet. The good thing is the new driving model, the new engine sounds, the smarter AI (not performance wise) and the more realistic colours of the tracks. 
 

I hope they can fix a lot of this bugs like on the other games. In the past CM was very fast in releasing patches and throw out it on every platform. Sometimes the patches should be longer tested in the QA. 

I have a good solution that we can play the games early and become a more polished product on release. Early access is the key. 🙂 I think this is the best solution for racing games. You must integrate more the racing community in the creating process. I mean not only the E sports leauge racers and you tube, twitch influencers. That is the wrong way. 

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I'm sure there are commercial reasons not to but I do think a longer time from the beta testing period till launch would be a good idea, to give more time to fix issues raised. Certainly this year and last there are lots of issues still present at launch that were raised by beta testers. My suggestion would also hopefully give the Codemasters team an easier launch period.

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On 7/18/2021 at 12:22 PM, steviejay69 said:

The expected timeline for the release is not yet publicly known.

It is clear on all release information and the EULA that the fulfilment will occur during the game’s lifecycle, that they are not available at release and will be ‘free’ once they are available.

Is it known if these tracks will be incorporated into a full season schedule or just available for time trial or online? I mentioned this in the suggestion thread, but to repeat it here, would really like the ability to adjust the season schedule to my liking in either a 23 race or 20 race schedule. Also, to add in my two cents since I am thinking of it. I was left a little disappointed last year that there was no DLC when it came to tracks or even additional drivers. I know that this should be stated in the suggestion thread, but will Codemasters look into coming out with DLC for other tracks that F1 was raced on, such as Hockenheim, Nurburgring, Turkey?

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17 minutes ago, heartcell11 said:

Is it known if these tracks will be incorporated into a full season schedule or just available for time trial or online? I mentioned this in the suggestion thread, but to repeat it here, would really like the ability to adjust the season schedule to my liking in either a 23 race or 20 race schedule. Also, to add in my two cents since I am thinking of it. I was left a little disappointed last year that there was no DLC when it came to tracks or even additional drivers. I know that this should be stated in the suggestion thread, but will Codemasters look into coming out with DLC for other tracks that F1 was raced on, such as Hockenheim, Nurburgring, Turkey?

They will be available in career/MyTeam when they’re available.  However, not overly sure if they’d work in existing saves.  I’d guess so though… 

Ability to adjust schedule is a very common request, particularly for season 2 and beyond. 
I wouldn’t expect any additional drivers, except for the F2 2021 lineup in Grand Prix mode.  The icons are your extra playfriends for this year. 
in terms of tracks, maybe in the future editions but definitely not this one. They’ve been very vocal that it’s only the additional three coming this year and that’s it.   No news on plans for future games though. 

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15 minutes ago, SmokyAtom07 said:

However, not overly sure if they’d work in existing saves.

BarryBL has posted to say they definitely will, from the next career season. It will not be necessary to start a brand new career to include the new tracks.

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15 hours ago, FTBuzzard said:

Thats not true.
I mean, codemastres cut tracks because they're not part of f1 anymore (Sepang, Valencia) 
 

And it's not like we're not getting any new tracks at all.
In F1 20 we got 2 brand new tracks (Zandvoort and Hanoi) and this year there are also 2 brand new tracks (Portimao and Jeddah) plus Imola returns to the series, which was last raced in 2013.

I think you can expect 2-3 new tracks every year, if the calendar is changed so far.

So whats the point of playing a 10 year career? with no variaty? 

basically you will play 10 times the same season, thats why I said more tracks would be awesome for these modes. 

learn to read and understand the content...and not picking some words and quote them!

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2 minutes ago, 2Pacalypse said:

So whats the point of playing a 10 year career? with no variaty? 

basically you will play 10 times the same season, thats why I said more tracks would be awesome for these modes. 

learn to read and understand the content...and not picking some words and quote them!

dont tell me what to do. ;D

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42 minutes ago, 2Pacalypse said:

So whats the point of playing a 10 year career? with no variaty? 

basically you will play 10 times the same season, thats why I said more tracks would be awesome for these modes. 

learn to read and understand the content...and not picking some words and quote them!

It's not like the game is short of tracks though, and it must surely be a tiny fraction of players that complete anything like 10 seasons in career mode. Which is not to say that more tracks available wouldn't be nice to have. Of course it would be.

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50 minutes ago, FOneFanatic said:

I'm surprised the game was released without this content - amazing! 

It's getting obvious how unprepared codemasters are to a changing calender. To combat this I think the time has come to start including tracks outside the calender for that year. Former circuit's so they are better prepared for such a scenario. It would strike well with fans to have circuits as part of a deluxe edition or post launch DLC. I do know licensing plays a part how much I don't know. However I fear at times licensing is used as an excuse or a ploy to back out of such an endeavour.  

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On 7/19/2021 at 1:15 PM, MadEvilBeavis76 said:

I know that is not a simple copy and paste, but this has nothing to do at this state with a full price game. A lot of gamer not want a story mode like breaking point. They put the whole afford into the story mode but not the rest of the game.

Agreed, a bit of effort and the Turkey track could surely be acceptable to include in the calendar. We've all seen that the same tracks are used over several years, some old signs are always left in accidently.

It always seems like a waste to leave the old circuits out when they are removed from the IRL calendar. Yes, I know the old 'licencing' argument will be thrown in there, but we don't know that is actually the reason. It's just as likely to be a bit of laziness, i.e. easier to move on and not include them, which is a shame, when they could be used for a custom season, or even better, to give us more choice & change the calendar a bit each season as we go through our career.

 

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6 hours ago, steviejay69 said:

Yes, the tracks will integrate into the game. They will be part of all game modes. I don’t know where you even get the notion they will be just TT.

He think he means shanghai only being available for breaking point maybe?

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I guess with EA now on board this budget problem will be toned down and we can look forward to much more tracks. Or maybe we even get a bigger story mode with less tracks available in the game.

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15 minutes ago, MAK said:

I guess with EA now on board this budget problem will be toned down and we can look forward to much more tracks. Or maybe we even get a bigger story mode with less tracks available in the game.

just because EA has money doesnt mean they will give codemasters all the money.

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10 minutes ago, steviejay69 said:

I can't answer that. The Braking Point story would seem already set, but are people really going to want the tracks delayed to get this into that storyboard that surely only has limited playthrough appeal?

Shanghai would probably not return this year in the vacant Australia slot. But when these modes were developed they would have been in schedule at the point of sign off.

Funny how people just think this is "a simple matter of". Legalities cost money, every variation of anything will need legal people to look it over and that is budget, plain and simple.

Depends on the demographics. Plus if the game had to be delayed for that reason September/October can't say I wouldn't mind. If my team where to have the braking point circuits I reckon it's an ideal addition. I don't have the game so I wouldn't know if is in my team already. Braking point (excluding the circuits) itself works fine as a feature outside career mode.

"Legalities cost money, every variation of anything will need legal people to look it over and that is budget, plain and simple"

I am aware it can be costly or cost effective given the situation spend money to make money. However I must point out there is an added revenue stream (microtransactions) since the last time tracks outside the calender were added.   

 

 

  

 

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They can say a lot of things...

but I'd like to explain to me...because I can't understand how a game released in the 90s had the full  F1 Calendar season and a game in 2021 with all the existing technology can't have it.

all right...

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"You can't have it both ways. Plenty are being critical here because the tracks are not in the game at launch."

I understand although that's Codemasters fault for not thinking about adding bonus circuits recently raced on. Modern circuits outside the calender or not usually part of the calender. Getting the ball rolling Updated: 2020 Formula 1 calendar – new ultra-fast layout to be used in Bahrain | GRR (goodwood.com) in September after the tracks were announced. They assumed the original calender would pick up again in 2021. The current tracks on the calender don't get updated anyway. If they started building, constructing the circuits stay say November/December 2020 when the legal part was complete. And joined it up while 2021 was in development using common sense planning ahead to think they may be added again for a second year in a row. At THIS point Jeddah & Portimao would have been the only track needed to be built in such a hurry. Instead of this rush job we have now. There wouldn't be as much people complaining as there is at the moment. 

I hope whoever is part of the construction of circuits gets a bit more support (addition of personel) because clearly their lacking the tools & the man/womenpower they need. It's needs to change as currently the situation leaves the studio unprepared it's as simple as that.

Perhaps they should enquire GOBO games for extra help.

Rant over     

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My opinion, we will get the 2 tracks around September time. Jeddah I’m saying around the end of the f1 season, so December only because we’ve not had the Jeddah race yet, but have with the other 2. Other option is they realise all 3 in December after Jeddah

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7 hours ago, steviejay69 said:

You are rather ranting. If you're not capable of game design then I'd stop offering opinion (I'm not claiming to be either, but there are so many considerations that seem to be above your comprehension or consideration). 

Nobody knew the calendar would change, it's been confirmed by FOM and then altered. It's always subject to change, sometimes a fast reaction to a fluid situation means you can't just "add stuff".

Resources have to be bought and paid for, would you rather put the track design out to tender each time there's a new one? That means short contract programmers knowing how the game is designed and then leaving. That's a recipe for commercial disaster and you can say what you like about NDAs that talent goes elsewhere. Yes it can be inferred just by producing data to a specification.

Maybe they should just start work on every FIA Grade 1 circuit in the entire world. Jeddah hasn't even been certified, in fact I don't think it's even finished. The race is "subject to homologation of the circuit".

It's nearly the end of July. The race is four months away. "Why don't they just finish it and get it signed off?" 

To be fair I get the impression your using excuses to deflect for the lack of preparedness on codemasters behalf. Either they hire & train more workers to to meet last minute additions/changes or you outsource staff or run the risk of NDA breaches to get the task done within the timescale. That's how companies work. Neither is been met. As every variable is been spread too thin. And that's their fault for not planning ahead since circuits were announced last year.

"Resources have to be bought and paid for, would you rather put the track design out to tender each time there's a new one? That means short contract programmers knowing how the game is designed and then leaving. That's a recipe for commercial disaster"

Yes I hear what your trying to say about resources. Everything has to be paid for the same for resources in any company. Would I rather put the design out to tender at this point? Well yeah actually. Can't get much worse at this current state. Since codemasters don't have people to complete the task within a certain timescale. If codemasters had those individual's to complete with a certain timescale? NO a tender wouldn't be needed. Short term programmers & collaborations short or long term with studios are not a bad avenue to pursue. We Create | Studio Gobo I couldn't care less to see every grade 1 FIA track in the world created. Only the ones in last ten to fifteen years over the course of iterations of games would suffice. 

The race is "subject to homologation of the circuit

Don't they have cad data beforehand? In order to create the best visualization of said circuit from that?

If that was the case wouldn't they codemasters have no choice but to update all turn's to the current standards?

Which doesn't happen anyway. And in that it indicates room for flexibility with homologation of circuit in a game. As long the obligation of the complete calender is fully represented.   

    

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Sorry, but if in an official F1 Game more than 10% of the tracks are not available - this is a bad joke!!! I don‘t wanna get an OFFICIAL game, where new tracks don‘t come this year, like some users mean. Do you wanna kidding me??? 🤨 I don‘t understand, that someone agree this.

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I just hope that the 2022 calendar will be more stable and all of this won't occur anymore.

Also I'm really looking forward to the three tracks especially Imola. After 11 years with Codemasters F1 titles it is the first time we can race on that track. EXCITING!

And another important thing, DON'T rush them. Nothing worse if they stand out quality wise from the base tracks.

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2 hours ago, WegMat said:

Sorry, but if in an official F1 Game more than 10% of the tracks are not available - this is a bad joke!!! I don‘t wanna get an OFFICIAL game, where new tracks don‘t come this year, like some users mean. Do you wanna kidding me??? 🤨 I don‘t understand, that someone agree this.

ok though jeddah's layout only got revealed at the end of march so obviously it's going to take them time to make the track and the calendar that had changed completely was out in january so obviously they don't have enough time to know and make the tracks by the time they announce them

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On 7/17/2021 at 11:11 PM, Shark2Racing said:

To be honest - if the driving model would have not being so huge and nice - I would have reclaimed my purchase on steam 

there is no excuse to delay tracks and improvements if the title of the game is creating expectations that can’t be fulfilled! 
A lot casuals will be buying an unfinished piece software at the time it is published 

And still contains a lot of issues being reported over years …..

 

Agreed the same could be said for the damage model. I feel it's not the same than what was mentioned in the beta. 

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