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On 8/30/2021 at 6:01 PM, Nuvolarix said:

AUSTRIA - Spielberg

Hi there, today my analysis in Austria and yes, the AI seems totally on another planet in T3, after the study on Monza I didn't think the situation was so serious, honestly 😕

Once I'm completely off the pace I use only my data of Time Trial (in any case better than my Q attempts) and mainly the current TT WR data (from Playstation), here the data:
- from my side I'm more or less able to match the AI 105 in S1 and S2 while I'm 0,5 s. slower in S3, which is 0,7 s. in comparison with AI 110
- the TT WR is almost able to match AI 110 in S1 and S2 but it's also 0,5 s. slower in S3, no story at all.

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The telemetry graphs speak for themselves:

in the (5) Wurth I'm already in trouble while the WR man is still able to match the AI 105 (but not the AI 110), impossible for anybody to keep up the AI speed at the (7) Rindt and in the following short straight to prepare the (8), unfortunately here something looks really broken with the AI 😢
 

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Bye,
Nuv

 

 

 

 

On 9/9/2021 at 10:31 AM, Nuvolarix said:

 

Hi there again,

I checked if I had some telemetry from F1 2020 and I found interesting data in Austria. Being all in all the performances (at least at the moment) very similar on the user side between F1 2020 and F1 2021, perhaps it may be useful to "take a step back" as regards the management of AI, at least as regards trajectories, accelerator / brake. As starting point maybe it would be easier rather than starting from the 2021 behaviour and trying to fix it.

F1 2020 - AUSTRIA - Spielberg

As you can see below the AI behaviour was good, perhaps a bit slow, being an AI 110, as in this case I managed to snatch the pole for few thousandths, but good (BTW I've seen also a 1.02.8xx by Hamilton in Q - AI 110):

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Look in particular between 7 and 8: the AI was probably a bit slower then me but just because it went too fast at the entry and needed to slow down a bit too much in the center. Overall still ok.

Regards,
Nuv

 

AUSTRIA - Spielberg - update patch 1.15

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On 9/3/2021 at 11:43 AM, Nuvolarix said:

BELGIUM - Spa-Francorchamps

  • compare the Playstation WR record with 'no aids' VS a qualifying lap of AI 110 in all the tracks reported in Barry's table (Note: the WR is the current best possible, the AI Q lap is typically made in a single session or at most two, in some cases it can be improved and quite easily achieved, but still good for telemetry purposes);

  • use red circles in the points of attention;

  • sometimes the WR has an 'alternate' line (I don't know if for connection problems or other), when I realized it I took another similar time, but in essence the general line does not change and the comparison is still possible;

  • in some tracks there's a much higher top speed by AI, this is due to setup reasons for which I ignore it.

T12 (Pouhon) [KO]

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Greetings,
Nuv

 

BELGIUM - Spa-Francorchamps - update patch 1.15

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On 9/3/2021 at 11:53 AM, Nuvolarix said:

The Netherlands - Zandvoort

  • compare the Playstation WR record with 'no aids' VS a qualifying lap of AI 110 in all the tracks reported in Barry's table (Note: the WR is the current best possible, the AI Q lap is typically made in a single session or at most two, in some cases it can be improved and quite easily achieved, but still good for telemetry purposes);

  • use red circles in the points of attention;

  • sometimes the WR has an 'alternate' line (I don't know if for connection problems or other), when I realized it I took another similar time, but in essence the general line does not change and the comparison is still possible;

  • in some tracks there's a much higher top speed by AI, this is due to setup reasons for which I ignore it.

T7 - T8 [KO]

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Greetings,
Nuv

 

The Netherlands - Zandvoort - update patch 1.15

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4 minutes ago, Nuvolarix said:

 

The Netherlands - Zandvoort - update patch 1.15

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Maybe a stupid question but the axis on the top with numbers 1 till 15 are the numbers of the corners and the blue line is the Ai?

Thank you

 

 

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Just now, Markovl said:

Maybe a stupid question but the axis on the top with numbers 1 till 15 are the numbers of the corners and the blue line is the Ai?

Thank you

 

 

Yes, exactly, excuse me I didn't explain like I did in the past ☺️

Greetings,
Nuv

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  • 1 month later...

Checked out the fixed circuits, yes Zandvoort can be played now, barely. Still the rest of the tracks are broken. Thread is tagged with patch number, should be in in development. Waiting for f1 2022, done with this one........

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Is there going to be another update for this? The AI is still unrealistically fast in some corners, in places such as Spain.

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