V2 Physics Discussion

[Porkhammer 78]

I'd also like to know what Kev is on about all of a sudden? Who's manipulating what?

[bogani 756]

PiotrAS191 said:

Rallycameraman said:

PiotrAS191 said:

It's possible but olny with handbrake, overspeeding the corner, keeping the revs, and so sometimes the car "goes out"...  We're talking about too much tires and mechanical!! grip problem (esspecialy in monte) since April and still nothing.. I hope that there will be more physic uptades. (If you can do this in D;R, show me! Remember without using handbrake, only with car power and left foot :) It's possible?! No... ? )

No you don't need handbrake to do it at all. It's a piece of piss using either left footbrake or just hitting the throttle in any of the cars. 

  Comparing this video to d;r , the levels of grip esspecialy mechanical are much more higher. It's possible to drift in this game but not like on this video and as I sad you must overspeed the corner, clutch kick to keep the revs and even further the car is "going out".

So, they are running studded tires in that video on slippery tarmac. As we cannot choose tires in DR we really can't compare. The closest thing would be the snowy sections at Monte where the tires in the game struggle the most to find grip. 

[AphDburn 0]

I think he's trying to tell you to stop cheating @dgeesi0 you scumbag. Learn to play fair. /s

[KlimasAdrian 7]

In Dirt Rally grip level is too high !!! 

Today I do one small test. I drove tarmac stage on dry and wet conditions. Please look at the times : 

TIME ON DRY 




TIME ON WET 





I do better time on wet sufarce !!!!

Paul Coleman, Codies - Is that this big simulation ?? C`mon ! This is arcade :(

P.S. Driving on tarmac is terrible !  Car floats !
P.S. 2 - sorry for my bad english

My experience : 

7 years playing RBR. Two times Polish champion and one time World runner up.
My profile : http://rbr.onlineracing.cz/index.php?act=ustats&u=66539

[Porkhammer 78]

Yeah tarmac isn't so amazing at the moment. We'll have to wait till V3 to see any improvements though.

[RyuMakkuro 6]

KlimasAdrian said:

In Dirt Rally grip level is too high !!! 

Today I do one small test. I drove tarmac stage on dry and wet conditions. Please look at the times : My experience : 

7 years playing RBR. Two times Polish champion and one time World runner up.
My profile : http://rbr.onlineracing.cz/index.php?act=ustats&u=66539

For so much experience, your times are kind of crap I'm afraid. You're 10 seconds behind a WR pace on a sub 3 minute tarmac stage. Not to say you're wrong (the wet tarmac is definitely a bit too "grippy" in rain), since tarmac definitely needs a lot of work, but using the word "arcade" is basically asking to be completely ignored.

Also, for those asking how to powerslide/drift through a corner with power alone. Take Fiesta or Impreza RX. Hit full throttle in the middle of the corner while going slowly. Enjoy the powerslide/drift.

[KlimasAdrian 7]

@Porkhammer 

Handling V3 will be relased ? 

[KevM 44]

@Porkhammer

You have no place in this thread :)                 

[Porkhammer 78]

KlimasAdrian said:

@Porkhammer 

Handling V3 will be relased ? 

In a distant future, yes I am pretty certain of this. Believe me, you're not the only one disliking V2 tarmac. The rest of the game is great though.

RyuMakkuro said:

For so much experience, your times are kind of crap I'm afraid. You're 10 seconds behind a WR pace on a sub 3 minute tarmac stage. Not to say you're wrong (the wet tarmac is definitely a bit too "grippy" in rain), since tarmac definitely needs a lot of work, but using the word "arcade" is basically asking to be completely ignored.

Also, for those asking how to powerslide/drift through a corner with power alone. Take Fiesta or Impreza RX. Hit full throttle in the middle of the corner while going slowly. Enjoy the powerslide/drift.

That's kind of unfair. He could be "crap" because the tarmac physics are just that awkward compared to games that does it better, no? Of course he could have worded it better, but disappointment makes us exaggerate a little. It's in the human nature.

Also, the RX tarmac physics are not the same as V2.

EDIT: spelling

[RyuMakkuro 6]

KlimasAdrian said:

@Porkhammer 

Handling V3 will be relased ? 

At some point, it will be. Watch last DiRT Show if you want to know more... then again, there's not much more about it tbh. But still worth watching it.

KevM said:

You have no place in this thread :)                 

Is it "that" day today? Cause it sure seems like it :p

[bogani 756]

I don't think V3 is confirmed in any way. There is plenty to be improved upon, but they had to move mountains just to get V2 in the game, and V2 was never planned in the first place. All I've heard they say is that if V3 will come, it won't be anytime soon.

[TonyRickard 17]

My biggest complaint is that DiRT Rally on gravel (most especially Wales) has pretty much made everything else feel lacking, including DiRT Rally on tarmac!

I just can't stop driving various cars around the Wales stages to the extent I haven't even bothered with the career and credits stuff.

[dgeesi0 305]

AphDburn said:

I think he's trying to tell you to stop cheating @dgeesi0 you scumbag. Learn to play fair. /s

:D

wales is the best thats why i mainly just drive it. :p

tarmac is not bad just not as good as gravel.those saying you cant slide on tarmac or drift need to go faster :D

[KevM 44]

Lol - You @ PorkScammer don't slide on gravel either big Ron!! 

Why bother with throttle control when you can mod the files, pin it, short-shift & steer?

[dgeesi0 305]

whos modding files ? who is the bait aimed at ?

if you cant slide on gravel :o

why not just say what you mean its like mystic meg in here :p

[TonyRickard 17]

dgeesi0 said:

tarmac is not bad just not as good as gravel.those saying you cant slide on tarmac or drift need to go faster :D

I never realised the chavs in supermarket car parks were so skilled ;)

[dgeesi0 305]

gets back in his 22b for one last donut :D.

[Cortextual 146]

Did Kev skip his meds today? His opinions used to at least be somewhat connected to reality.

[Nahkamarakatti 0]

Cortextual said:

Did Kev skip his meds today? His opinions used to at least be somewhat connected to reality.

That's what I'm wondering too... :)

[KevM 44]

Don't be so blinkered lads.

If if you can drive & if you know the game, it's unbelievably obvious when watching a replay.

You CAN drive? Right?? 

[Cortextual 146]

KevM said:

Don't be so blinkered lads.

If if you can drive & if you know the game, it's unbelievably obvious when watching a replay.

You CAN drive? Right?? 

Let me get this straight. You're suggesting that porkhammer and dg are using modified files to get good times and then are stupid enough to upload the replays? And that this has been going on undetected since the beginning of early access? You are aware that times done with modified files are not registered on the leaderboards right? No, presumably you aren't, because that would require some level of actual research or knowledge of the subject you're talking about.

[Snaky115 18]

BUT MY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT EVERYTHING IN GAMING IS MY DRIVER'S LICENSE, RIGHT?

[Porkhammer 78]

KevM said:

Don't be so blinkered lads.

If if you can drive & if you know the game, it's unbelievably obvious when watching a replay.

You CAN drive? Right?? 

Translation: I can't drive like the fast people, therefore they must have modified game files, which somehow has gone undetected by Codemasters for 6 months.

[Rallycameraman 241]

oh dear oh dear. Am I included in this too seeing as I have a few world records still?

[bogani 756]

Well, that escalated quickly.