with developers 2021 ALL PLATFORMS - AI speed on 'cooldown' lap causing problems

[Rango 259]

- As you can see at the end of the clip below, I finished my quali lap at the end of an 18min session. When the 'AI' took over after crossing the line, it carried on going at full speed. In itself, not technically an issue, but combined with the crawling  speed of the mass of AI cars ahead of me (they were practically stationary), caused my car to crash into Mazepin. Knowing how this game historically allocates blame / penalties, I could quite easily have been given one there. It actually gave Mazepin a 5 place grid penalty.

- DTDC-BMST-CDTX-GTJG

- XSX

- online, social lobby, friends only, 25% with 18 min quali. 

- 4 of us in session. I was host. 

- Nothing for me to do. 

- No idea how to replicate other than maybe try to finish my last quali lap after the session end, after the countdown timer has started? 

Surely this 'mess' at the end of the lap shouldn't happen at all? I'd have thought all cars, player or AI, once they've finished the session, should drive along at a predetermined pace. 

Edited August 9 by Rango

[Rango 259]

More AI qualifying idiocy. Why are they crawling along in this sector (or at all for that matter), spread across almost the entire track width? Luckily in this instance, due to knowing what the AI are like, my friend slowed in time to avoid a penalty. AI Stroll however...

[Rango 259]

This issue is making this game unplayable. It didn't happen at all in 2020. I simply don't understand why it's happening now?! 

It occurred 3 times in 3 races tonight  (short quali), videos pending. I think what's happening is after completing their flying lap in quali, the AI slow to a crawl. This then has a domino effect and you end up with a bunch of slow cars blocking the track, or worse, having crashed into each other (see below screenshot to illustrate the consequences) which if you're on your flying lap, you're screwed. You either crash into them, or if you've seen it soon enough, abort and add another lap worth of wear to the tyres and try again. It's a ridiculous problem. Hopefully have 3 separate videos to upload soon

Edited September 5 by Rango
Screenshot added

[Rango 259]

This is after it already happening into turn 2... 

[Rango 259]

@BarryBL this is ruining the game for us

Edited September 6 by Rango

[BarryBL 8,633]

Yeah, not good this one. Will get that added to the list and sent to the testing team asap. 

[Aparow 119]

I had something similar happen multiple times in F1 2020. Here's an example of it, which has been "with developers" for months, but it looks like it hasn't been solved, not even in F1 2021: https://forums.codemasters.com/topic/71350-ai-crashed-my-car-in-unranked-after-q1-ended-and-took-me-out-of-q2

I also saw the AI crawling on the track in qualifying, like in the videos above, but didn't manage to clip it.

Edited September 6 by Aparow

[Rango 259]

That's the odd thing, I never experienced this on 2020 and we had races every Sunday since launch including a full league season. Happens in every session currently. There's no way I can start another league like this. Hope it get fixed this time 🤞🏻

[Rango 259]

1 hour ago, BarryBL said:

Yeah, not good this one. Will get that added to the list and sent to the testing team asap. 

Thanks Barry. If it helps, the AI level is probably a bit lower than most players as we had some new guys join us for 2021, plus AI are faster this time round. This is at 68. Don't see why it would be an issue at lower AI, surely the cooldown lap should be at a set % of lap speed irrespective of difficulty, and certainly not stopping on track! 

Races were 25% & 50%, but quali was short (18 min) in both instances. Not sure if it's the same in full quali. 

Edited September 6 by Rango

[GrogSwiller 5]

i haven't done many weekends with anything but one-shot quali in 2021 yet, but I swear the behavior in race seems (at least to me) to continuously get worse in line with the consistently dropping "focus" stat on all the AI drivers when I'm playing in career modes.

By about season 2 it feels like a miracle to get 2 clean laps in before the safety cars and cautions start coming out.

[Rango 259]

5 hours ago, GrogSwiller said:

i haven't done many weekends with anything but one-shot quali in 2021 yet, but I swear the behavior in race seems (at least to me) to continuously get worse in line with the consistently dropping "focus" stat on all the AI drivers when I'm playing in career modes.

By about season 2 it feels like a miracle to get 2 clean laps in before the safety cars and cautions start coming out.

Not sure this is related, the issue I've raised is to do with qualifying not the race. 

Edited September 8 by Rango

[Rango 259]

@BarryBL any update on this? 

[Rango 259]

Happening at a higher AI at Portimao too. Not great there, especially considering the dip.

Luckily I was anticipating it and could warn my friend who was on a flyer behind me, or he'd have smashed straight into them. 

Also, Bottas got me a grid penalty for driving into me at turn 1?! 

[Rango 259]

And again. Bottas got a 5 place grid penalty for illegal blocking incidentally 

[steviejay69 1,704]

This was exactly present in a previous game, train wrecking AI that run into each other after the qualifying timer has ended.

[BarryBL 8,633]

No update at this time,developers are still investigating.

[Rango 259]

Ok thanks, but not sure what there is to investigate. Just set AI cooldown laps to be done at a higher speed than 5mph!

I really hope 2022 will be less of a car crash (pun intended) than this game is. We've gone back to 2020 because this is just unplayable

Edited September 21 by Rango

[Rango 259]

Brazil 18m quali 25% race

[Rango 259]

More AI stopping after they cross the finish line after their flying lap. Please fix this

[Rango 259]

Any news on a fix for this @BarryBL? 

[Aparow 119]

Here's more: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AqsCmb29voAYhl2M5XkGOcpkShpQ?e=aZ23x8

[Rango 259]

At least when it happens in session you can try and avoid them, happening at the end - when most cars are out on their final attempt - is impossible to avoid. Completely ruins the immersion. Can anyone confirm if this happens at all in single player or is it just online? 

[Rango 259]

BarryBLany chance you can confirm if a fix for this is included in the upcoming patch?

 

[Rango 259]

Not sure this is the same thing tbh

[Luke1991 36]

• As the title says, the AI no longer get out of the way in practice or qualifying when they are on in/out laps when you are on a fast lap. This is on the latest patch that included Imola.
• Report Code - N/A
• Xbox Series X
• Grand Prix
• What troubleshooting have you tried? Tried replicating the same scenario multiple times where an AI car comes out of the pits as I’m coming down the main straight. I tried following them for the entire lap and they do not slow down and get out of the way.
• Unable to make a video at this time.
• How do you make the problem happen? In both qualifying and practice at Imola in Grand Prix mode. As already mentioned above cars are coming out the pits as I’m starting a fast lap and they are not getting out of the way for the entire lap. They just continue to drive as normal. This was not an issue on previous patches.