PBRACING77 6 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 This Forum is for people who want to protest against the esports build. It is not fair on anyone who has bought the game to then find out the esports drivers get the patch over 3 months before us. They are trying to ruin league racing and leagues such as PSGL PC and WOR PC, the amount of effort admins in these leagues have put in is ridiculously amazing and they don't deserve this BullSh*t so who's with me? 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra3142 1,346 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Do you have any specific details of what is happening when? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaredDuck 691 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Chiaarge!!!!!!!!🙄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steviejay69 1,704 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Guys, it's not a bug. Moved to chat. For transparency F1 2021 · F1® 2021 · AppID: 1134570 · SteamDB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SmokyAtom07 368 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I dunno. eSports is a serious thing now. Like, really serious. Not just in F1 but across various other disciplines too. I'm okay at the game, not sensational but not awful... but, like Kimi, it's just a hobby for me. However, those guys take it really serious as it's basically a livelihood for them. The actual F1 teams are invested in the eSports world too so, by that logic, you should be outraged that real life drivers get handling changes before you do. Is it a bummer that they get it way before us? Yeah, I guess. Is it worth whining about? Only if you depend on it for your main source of income. Maybe i'm completely off the mark as i've heard the story but not read the minutiae but I cannot imagine the sole purpose is to kill off league racing. Plus, wait til the handling model comes out and people complain it's ruined the game and they want it reverting back... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaredDuck 691 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 It’s the end off the world as we know it🎸🎹🎼🎤🥁🎷🎺🎸🎻 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PiterT2 6 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 please no more distractions, they still haven't been able to fix thrustmaster's force feedback issues in a month and a half. let them focus and you will probably have two new helmet designs and a new scream at the finish line. 3 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaredDuck 691 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, PiterT2 said: please no more distractions, they still haven't been able to fix thrustmaster's force feedback issues in a month and a half. let them focus and you will probably have two new helmet designs and a new scream at the finish line. Ah man if they make the shockwave livery from last year available this year I’ll be made up😃 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meza994 328 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Anybody having a clue what he is talking about? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaredDuck 691 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Meza994 said: Anybody having a clue what he is talking about? Apparently it’s blowing up on Twitter how esports has the new handling model and no one else does... so they are mad cause that means normal online leagues that esports drivers get practice and scouted from have the current handling model and that’s not fair (imagine me throwing dummy out off pram) or if your wondering what I’m on about with the shockwave livery from last year.. was my favourite livery... was shockwave which I did in a selection of nice blues with a nice orange pin stripe around the bottom... was awesome Edited August 27 by ScaredDuck 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meza994 328 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, ScaredDuck said: Apparently it’s blowing up on Twitter how esports has the new handling model and no one else does... so they are mad cause that means normal online leagues that esports drivers get practice and scouted from have the current handling model and that’s not fair (imagine me throwing dummy out off pram) Just read up on it and its also the performance patch for the cars which we will only get in October.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oesi345 34 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, ScaredDuck said: Apparently it’s blowing up on Twitter how esports has the new handling model and no one else does... so they are mad cause that means normal online leagues that esports drivers get practice and scouted from have the current handling model and that’s not fair (imagine me throwing dummy out off pram) Plus, PSGL just lost their highest (and possible second highest as well) league, just like that. Months, years of time and sweat gone down the drain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaredDuck 691 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 5 minutes ago, Meza994 said: Just read up on it and its also the performance patch for the cars which we will only get in October.. I heard/read not performance patch. Just handling model. But I may have wrong info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meza994 328 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ScaredDuck said: I heard/read not performance patch. Just handling model. But I may have wrong info Nope its also performance patch, but Lee Mather said that its because they still need to train the AI for both performance and handling which is understandable, sucks but is understandable Edited August 27 by Meza994 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaredDuck 691 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 7 minutes ago, Oesi345 said: Plus, PSGL just lost their highest (and possible second highest as well) league, just like that. Months, years of time and sweat gone down the drain. I care about them as much as they care about us who prefer to play offline. 😃 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QtiN 0 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Since the EA acquisition, the game tripled in price, with less content and a poor handling model. This is extortion, seriously! Will the next release be sold for the old price? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderator 1512marcel 818 Posted August 27 Moderator Share Posted August 27 6 minutes ago, QtiN said: Since the EA acquisition, the game tripled in price, with less content and a poor handling model. This is extortion, seriously! Will the next release be sold for the old price? Please stick to the subject and if this is important to you, create your own topic. I will hide this post soon. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonBlanko 139 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) I think this article makes a good overview and gave us a good argument why codemasters did it like that: Short answer: AI https://racinggames.gg/f1/f1-2021-performance-patch-to-land-in-october-causes-havoc-with-psgl/?fbclid=IwAR0XU2jvuiquG9FeXoKyUFkKi84MR_chpoNHmwaMjnUbbav9exJhaLv1SL4 Edited August 27 by DonBlanko 1 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaredDuck 691 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 We getting 35% races? Awesome. I used to race that distance back when you could choose your length. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nuvolarix 172 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) Well, I'm a bit confused. I knew nothing about this and the plans to include an 'handling patch' together with the 'performance patch'. Unless the different handling is not only what is due to a few horses less, really have no idea, but based on what I read on Twitter, eg. Frederik Rasmussen, it doesn't look like only this. Personally I am not offended if I receive the changes a few days/weeks later (although it is clearly an injustice for those who are not eSports drivers but aspire to become one day), i play offline, but i'm waiting for the performance patch too and possibly also the new tracks before starting a "serious" championship. In the meantime, I'm training, getting familiar with handling as well as helping to find some bugs etc. and honestly hearing that handling will change leaves me perplexed. Firstly because it seems to me that overall it is liked more than that of F1 2020, including myself, and also because the unprofessional player does not do it as a job, has much less time available, and a change of handling while running (after months) is a punch in the stomach. I have been surfing the forum for a year or so, I think I have never written a line of complaint nor am I the type to do so, and I still hope that all this 'handling problem' is perceptible so clearly only by the fast eSports drivers, that as I said before it is just that "normal" difference that comes from a different "power". Because if this were not the case I would like someone to explain at least the reason for that and why a game released in July, having roughly an annual duration (before the new release), there is no way to be "started" immediately, but one has to wait 3 months to get a stable game model. I am not referring to bugs, new tracks, fine tuning or everything else, just asking for a stable handling. I don't think it's too much, but perhaps I'm missing something. At this point I hope at least that the release times for everyone will be accelerated as much as possible, and thanks in advance for any possibly official reply. Nuv EDIT: Is it possible that the problem of the eSports drivers is only due to the fact that their new release is incompatible with the old, public one? I am an incurable optimist ☺️ Edited August 27 by Nuvolarix Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BarryB 130 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 hours ago, Oesi345 said: Plus, PSGL just lost their highest (and possible second highest as well) league, just like that. Months, years of time and sweat gone down the drain. No offense, i get the frustration as i run a league myself, but the fact that those drivers leave says quite a lot about their loyalty to those league, doesn't it? To me it's not very fair to blame it all on Codies, they're not the ones leaving. Can they do things better? Oh a 1000 times yes, but let's please stay realistic here. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oesi345 34 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, BarryB said: No offense, i get the frustration as i run a league myself, but the fact that those drivers leave says quite a lot about their loyalty to those league, doesn't it? To me it's not very fair to blame it all on Codies, they're not the ones leaving. Can they do things better? Oh a 1000 times yes, but let's please stay realistic here. The E-Sports guys are professionals, playing just an hour with a handling model that's not gonna be used in Esports, if the actual model is available, is wasted time. There was like 100k for the winner on offer last year as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BarryB 130 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, Oesi345 said: The E-Sports guys are professionals, playing just an hour with a handling model that's not gonna be used in Esports, if the actual model is available, is wasted time. There was like 100k for the winner on offer last year as well. Which proves actually my point about their loyalty to those leagues. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oesi345 34 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, BarryB said: Which proves actually my point about their loyalty to those leagues. Dude, it is their job, probably some of them are obliged to play the newest version by contracts as well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra3142 1,346 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, BarryB said: Which proves actually my point about their loyalty to those leagues. Not really. The eSports drivers have contracts with F1 teams so we're talking about their professional responsibilities here. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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