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Hi,

What is your experience with multiplayer after the 1.10 patch on PC?

Last night we were trying to do our first league race after the patch, 3 divisions. 2 of these had major issues and 1 had to be cancelled after trying 2 remakes.

I have been playing F1 since 2019 and know the online isn’t the best out there, but I have never experienced it as bad as yesterday and never seen a cancellation. We were racing at Bahrain at I think the first lobby faulted after a SC which is the new Aston Martin. On the last attempt almost everybody had major desync issues and we ended up with mass collisions on T1 and the hairpin.

New patch or were we just unlucky?

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I play on XBox Series S and since patch 1.10, the multiplayer experience is totally broken. I think I was able to play only once since the patch that was suposed to fix multiplayer experience. What a rough start for that game and things are not improving... I play F1 2020 now.

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Playstation is still a disaster too. 

Screw Braking point **** fix online racing. ESports should be a **** show with this. 

My league race crashed bc some  guy left early... Wiped out the whole race results. 

A mess. Embarrassing it's still not fixed. 

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By no words of a lie or exaggeration, every update has made online play worse. It is now near impossible to get into a session, most of the time it searches for a couple of minutes before finding you a session on your own

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12 hours ago, Bat33 said:

Weekly Event Monza broken.

No more points anymore after improving previous try. 

Achieved 330k, all other tries 0 Points won the race but no points

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That sounds fixed rather than broken... the weekly event should just use your 1st score and not allow multiple tries

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15 minutes ago, kalamazoo123 said:

That sounds fixed rather than broken... the weekly event should just use your 1st score and not allow multiple tries

Ah okay. Thanks for your information, this could be possible, like in the main grand prix quali event.

Multiple tries allowed in the past for the weekly event.

 

You earn XPs for every new try but no points... 😁😂

Would be great to know such thinks in the future, before trying again. At least a short notice or alert that you have only one valid try and any additional try will cancel your points.

This make the weekly event useless for me, one try the whole week...

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13 hours ago, TrovaMB said:

Online is broken.  I'd be happy if Barry or someone from codemasters would at least say "we know, we're working on it". 

Admitting there's a problem is the first step... 

Some more detail on how would be appreciated. Completing a bug report would be the right start.

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Thanks for the feedback

There are discussions about postponing league entirely now until we see some improvement.

I mainly use F1 for league racing and in my current community it has been tremendously fun.

But what is the point if the game is so broken now it is not possible to complete a short Q and 50% race.

 

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So to begin with, ever since the last update the amount of desyncs has increased dramatically. Since this wasn't in the patchnotes i'm gonna assume this is not WAD this time but, in fact, a bug. It needs the HIGHEST priority of fixing because league racing right now is downright impossible. Honestly WHO tests the stuff before you throw it out and can they get fired already. 

 

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    BIG desync issues. cars driving the wrong way in the pits. cars that can't see eachother. Just total chaos really. Takes several restarts to get the lobby into a playable state and even then some people need to reconnect untill they can see everyone. 
  • Report Code
    Just PLAY online and get your own report codes. TEST YOUR PRODUCT PLZ
  • Platform?
    PC
  • Game-mode?
    Whatever unranked is called these days
  • [ONLINE] The amount of players in your session? If you know the players forum username, please tag as many people who were in your session here.
    18
  • [ONLINE] Were you the host?
    No
  • [PC ONLY] Please post your DXDiag, including the make and model of motherboard.
    Not relevant.
  • What troubleshooting have you tried? Please list everything you tried.
    Been crying to you guys on the forums for years and probably getting laughed at for actually caring. 
  • Any screenshots or video of the issue? Remember to add as unlisted if video via a third party. 
    https://clips.twitch.tv/CrowdedSpineyTarsierBibleThump-yyX0Zhn__djuzf8p
    Commentator (Which was me) couldn't see a car that got crashed into. 
  • How do you make the problem happen? Please add a step-by-step guide here so we can replicate and get reported as quick as possible.
    By trying our hardest to enjoy this game. 

 

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"more common" meaning, You have to restart 3 times before not half the lobby is desynced and then still people need to reconnect. 

Didn't see this post before i did my own bug report. but UP UP UP this has to go until we've got confirmation the devs have put everything else aside to fix the mess they made. 

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37 minutes ago, BarryBL said:

Some more detail on how would be appreciated. Completing a bug report would be the right start.

I mean you can't be serious. 

But I made bug reports for some of the issues he is surely talking about so we can stop playing games.   
Is everybody at the office already working on fixing this mess? would be great if the league races next week won't have the issues we're experiencing now. It went from a big disappointment to unbearable.

We wanted to do a test race tomorrow to see if, maybe, the game was ready for league racing after the patch but now there's no point at all cause we already know it's gonna be a disaster. 

So can you indeed please tell us if you guys are 'aware' of the big problems this game has, that these have been greatly increased since the last patch? 
Can you also tell us if you're planning on fixing these issues in the near future? 

Thanks in advance!
 

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@BarryBL

I cannot speak for the "ranked" races but I spend most of my time in social play "experienced" or 25% races. Since the last patch things have been terrible for me. Takes several tries to get into a lobby. I get 5 or 6 errors before finally getting in a lobby. I have also noticed a lot of cars teleporting all over the track while racing. We cannot race with cars jumping all over the place! Yesterday I put in a descent qual lap at Spa that I should have had the pole. I was moved to P2 and the the guy who ended up on the pole had no time, see picture below. This guy then took me out on the first turn as I got a great start and got well in front of him, for him only to torpedo me in the first corner causing me terminal damage and him quit. The guys jumping the start is another issue. They need to be penalized ASAP, you guys cannot not allow them to get in front of the guys who did not jump the start. Return them to their grid spot with a 30 second penalty until they are released. Under the safety car is a disaster!!!!. CM needs to GHOST everyone under both VR and safety cars!!! this will stop the BS!!!! CM also needs to start "PROGRESSIVE" penalty system. There is too many guys just going for it and taking the penalties and hope that they pull a big enough gap to beat someone like me tries for zero penalties. First track limit penalty can stay at 3 seconds. second one should be 6 seconds, third 12 seconds, a 10th off should result in being disqualified. There should be limit to the amount of penalty seconds per race. Say if you get 25 or 30 seconds of penalties in any given race, you should be disqualified. These are supposed "experienced" races and all I see is a bunch of trash driving. It is time for CODEMASTERS to step up and really fix "multiplayer" modes. We need to be pushing people to race cleaner. We the players just cant keep creating bug reports for you as there is just too many issues. The current state of multiplayer is beyond poor. I've been waiting for years for CM to realized that multiplayer needs changing, but this year is the worst I have ever seen from CM. Ran 10 races yesterday, only finished 2 due to poor or dirty drivers. Please get with the team and really talk about making some changes to improve the online racing. F! could be so freaking great, if it was always forcing us to think about penalties before we make a stupid move while racing. And just how does NO qual time beat my time in the picture below????

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9 minutes ago, Getts0388 said:

@BarryBL

I cannot speak for the "ranked" races but I spend most of my time in social play "experienced" or 25% races. Since the last patch things have been terrible for me. Takes several tries to get into a lobby. I get 5 or 6 errors before finally getting in a lobby. I have also noticed a lot of cars teleporting all over the track while racing. We cannot race with cars jumping all over the place! Yesterday I put in a descent qual lap at Spa that I should have had the pole. I was moved to P2 and the the guy who ended up on the pole had no time, see picture below. This guy then took me out on the first turn as I got a great start and got well in front of him, for him only to torpedo me in the first corner causing me terminal damage and him quit. The guys jumping the start is another issue. They need to be penalized ASAP, you guys cannot not allow them to get in front of the guys who did not jump the start. Return them to their grid spot with a 30 second penalty until they are released. Under the safety car is a disaster!!!!. CM needs to GHOST everyone under both VR and safety cars!!! this will stop the BS!!!! CM also needs to start "PROGRESSIVE" penalty system. There is too many guys just going for it and taking the penalties and hope that they pull a big enough gap to beat someone like me tries for zero penalties. First track limit penalty can stay at 3 seconds. second one should be 6 seconds, third 12 seconds, a 10th off should result in being disqualified. There should be limit to the amount of penalty seconds per race. Say if you get 25 or 30 seconds of penalties in any given race, you should be disqualified. These are supposed "experienced" races and all I see is a bunch of trash driving. It is time for CODEMASTERS to step up and really fix "multiplayer" modes. We need to be pushing people to race cleaner. We the players just cant keep creating bug reports for you as there is just too many issues. The current state of multiplayer is beyond poor. I've been waiting for years for CM to realized that multiplayer needs changing, but this year is the worst I have ever seen from CM. Ran 10 races yesterday, only finished 2 due to poor or dirty drivers. Please get with the team and really talk about making some changes to improve the online racing. F! could be so freaking great, if it was always forcing us to think about penalties before we make a stupid move while racing. And just how does NO qual time beat my time in the picture below????

Spa 9.16.21.JPG

Ghosting is not the answer.. I think ghosting should be disabled across the board because it's too random and it's better if people always know they can't drive through eachother. 
(as well as giving lapped cars the feeling they do not, in fact, have to gtfo of the way, even though they very much influence cars behind) 

But regardless of that. the desyncs need fixing. ghosting under sc will fix just symptoms and then add more issues. also when should the ghosting stop? at the line? and then you just keep driving inside someone so you can't unghost and then drive straight through them in t1? ghosting doesn't belong in this game. It should just work well enough that it's not necessary except for maybe extreme freezes and ai cars and the likes. 

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9 hours ago, kalamazoo123 said:

That sounds fixed rather than broken... the weekly event should just use your 1st score and not allow multiple tries

Whilst I agree it would be logical to only allow one attempt, I don't think the current situation was intentional. I believe lots of people aren't getting scores even from their first attempt.

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15 hours ago, Ultra3142 said:

Whilst I agree it would be logical to only allow one attempt, I don't think the current situation was intentional. I believe lots of people aren't getting scores even from their first attempt.

Maybe only the first valid attempt counts.

Anyway would be great to know the requirements and rules before improving the first valid attempt, ending with zero points on the leaderboard...

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6 minutes ago, Bat33 said:

Maybe only the first valid attempt counts.

If that were the case then subsequent attempts should not be able to be started. How the system worked previously, and how I'm essentially certain it is still intended to workis that there is a points penalty on subsequent attempts.

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Have codemasters made a statement about the farce that is online lobbies at the moment and if they’re planning on fixing it? If so can someone point me in the direction of it. We’re 6 league races in and 4 of them have been disrupted by desync, glitched cars on track. Safety car lagging backwards into the cars and the leaderboards messing up. And after seeing what happened in PGSL I can imagine them having to respond and not ignore the complaints. Lot of money for a game that doesn’t even work. Shambles

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4 hours ago, Ultra3142 said:

If that were the case then subsequent attempts should not be able to be started. How the system worked previously, and how I'm essentially certain it is still intended to workis that there is a points penalty on subsequent attempts.

As far as i'm aware, during a week practice/quali followed by a weekend race event, you receive a time penalty if you have more than one attempt at qualifying (0.5s?). When you attempt a race on the weekend, any new attempt will replace your old score on the leaderboard, even if its lower than your previous

 

On the "all week" weekly events, no penalties seem to apply so you can have as many goes as you like without risking your current leaderboard score. Atleast thats what I remember from when the game used to work

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Been no change on PS at least to the online mess. 

Removed from a 13 car lobby after a race, put into a lobby on my own, for a split second before the game put me into a 'new' lobby with 4 other players who were on lap 1 of their race. 

That's just my first attempt back since 1.10, I'm doubting it's an exception. 

Laughable. 

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