urgaffel 99 Posted June 2, 2017 bogani said: edgenz said: hooooooly sheeeeeeeit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPxFmYVsGaEbody 18 characters too short Dust is one thing @urgaffel, but creating the barrage of gravel thrown from the tires would be great challenge for you ;) I know I know... It's one of those things that look really simple but when you actually try to make it turns out to be REALLY hard :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogani 765 Posted June 2, 2017 urgaffel said: bogani said: edgenz said: hooooooly sheeeeeeeit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPxFmYVsGaEbody 18 characters too short Dust is one thing @urgaffel, but creating the barrage of gravel thrown from the tires would be great challenge for you ;) I know I know... It's one of those things that look really simple but when you actually try to make it turns out to be REALLY hard :( Looks so damn cool though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dytut 91 Posted June 2, 2017 Going to be fun to see if Paddon will be back in form now. He was seriously fast in Portugal. I was rather surprised to hear that he tried to change his driving style to the car instead of the other way around. The '17 cars feel like they should be more tuneable to the driver with the active center diff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pigloaf 262 Posted June 2, 2017 Dytut said: Going to be fun to see if Paddon will be back in form now. He was seriously fast in Portugal. I was rather surprised to hear that he tried to change his driving style to the car instead of the other way around. The '17 cars feel like they should be more tuneable to the driver with the active center diff. I believe he's been trying to learn a cleaner style for about a year now, but has decided to screw it and go back to full Colin mode. Won't be great for tire conservation - but he'll hopefully be back to his best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dytut 91 Posted June 5, 2017 Wonder how Sardegna will pan out.I suspect we will have a repeat of Portugals day one, with the usual suspects quite close and probably mistakes and car problems that will make the big difference. I won't even wager a guess as to standings in the end, other than that Ogier and Neuville will probably both be on the podium.Will be interesting to see how Mikkelsen will do. I don't think he can challenge for the podium, but I wouldn't be surprised if he snatches P4-6. Hope Paddon gets a gremlin free rally, he deserves a break now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dytut 91 Posted June 8, 2017 https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/status/872764412125425664As usual, shakedowns don't mean much. But it's good to see Lappi up there, shows he's meaning to push a bit this time. Mikkelsen is on pace, so also nice to see. Only weird thing was Otts rather slow times, hope there isn't anything wrong with his car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyNevada 52 Posted June 8, 2017 @Dytut Ott had an issue with his power steering on the first run and he was saving his tyres on the last two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RallyDriven 398 Posted June 8, 2017 Saw a picture of Prokop off the road in a ditch. Didn't look like there was any damage though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dytut 91 Posted June 8, 2017 Ah, tire saving strategies again. I kind of feel like they should get a dedicated set to use for shakedown that isn't part of the full rally strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiRTKiNG808 15 Posted June 8, 2017 Dytut said: Ah, tire saving strategies again. I kind of feel like they should get a dedicated set to use for shakedown that isn't part of the full rally strategy. Ya I think that would be a good idea. That's kind of how F1 does it with the dedicated Q3 tire. That way the rally drivers could use there dedicated shakedown tire and push their car to see if there is any problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juu1ius 5 Posted June 9, 2017 Citroens disastrous season continues, Mikkelsen is fastest of them all but he's well off the pace. I'm glad for Esapekka Lappi first stage win and hopefully Paddons bad luck is past now so he Tänak can have a good fight :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogani 765 Posted June 9, 2017 Impressive pace by Hänninen so far! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoMrWhite 19 Posted June 9, 2017 Aaaaand Meeke crashes again, while Breen damages the gearbox on a jump. Awful.Okay, the car may be difficult to drive, but that's no excuse. They had a full year of testing to find this out. What were they doing in 2016? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juu1ius 5 Posted June 9, 2017 YoMrWhite said: Aaaaand Meeke crashes again, while Breen damages the gearbox on a jump. Awful.Okay, the car may be difficult to drive, but that's no excuse. They had a full year of testing to find this out. What were they doing in 2016? Idd, Meek has had 7 rallies and 7 crashes so far. Actually 2 in Argentina :open_mouth: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FloatingGrass 0 Posted June 9, 2017 Meeke doesn't deserve his drive anymore. I'm sorry: he's quick and likeable, but you just can't crash eight times in seven rallies. He needs to go.As for happy things, LAPPI! He's so damn cool. "Tell Tommi that 5 gears is enough!".Latvala seems in a great position to attack tomorrow, with a great battle with Neuville looking likely.Also quite surprised by Ogier's lack of pace and Hanninen's actual pace. Special rally :smiley: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F2CMaDMaXX 516 Posted June 9, 2017 I don't agree on Meeke needing to go. The Citroen is obviously unstable when driven fast, but because he's a Colin style driver, he will be pushing it too much in order to keep up.Breen is more cautious his times and lesser damage reflect this.But yeah, what *were* they doing last year? Maybe it's the pace, didn't know how fast they'd need to push I guess? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiRTKiNG808 15 Posted June 9, 2017 F2CMaDMaXX said: I don't agree on Meeke needing to go. The Citroen is obviously unstable when driven fast, but because he's a Colin style driver, he will be pushing it too much in order to keep up.Breen is more cautious his times and lesser damage reflect this.But yeah, what *were* they doing last year? Maybe it's the pace, didn't know how fast they'd need to push I guess? They really need to go look at the blue prints again. I think Meeke is a great driver. The team just need to get their act together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwkGravey 0 Posted June 9, 2017 Meeke was only getting stronger in the DS3. Now the C3 has undone all that.Compare the C3, where Citroën and Meeke had a year to work on it, to the Yaris, whose development looked in trouble, was restarted midway through, and then was practically overhauled with a few weeks before the season start when Latvala finally got a seat.I can only echo everyone else here, and wonder what the heck happened with Citroën. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juu1ius 5 Posted June 9, 2017 dwkGravey said: Meeke was only getting stronger in the DS3. Now the C3 has undone all that.Compare the C3, where Citroën and Meeke had a year to work on it, to the Yaris, whose development looked in trouble, was restarted midway through, and then was practically overhauled with a few weeks before the season start when Latvala finally got a seat.I can only echo everyone else here, and wonder what the heck happened with Citroën. there has been rumors, that Citroens budget was cut drastically and thanks to that they are using Öhlins suspension, that seems to be unreliable. BUT! Meek can be Colins reincarnation, but it doesn't change a fact that he's no.1 driver and developer who should be able to drive ON the limit of the car, not over it. 8 crashes on 7 rallies, that's clearly too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiRTKiNG808 15 Posted June 10, 2017 juu1ius said: dwkGravey said: Meeke was only getting stronger in the DS3. Now the C3 has undone all that.Compare the C3, where Citroën and Meeke had a year to work on it, to the Yaris, whose development looked in trouble, was restarted midway through, and then was practically overhauled with a few weeks before the season start when Latvala finally got a seat.I can only echo everyone else here, and wonder what the heck happened with Citroën. there has been rumors, that Citroens budget was cut drastically and thanks to that they are using Öhlins suspension, that seems to be unreliable. BUT! Meek can be Colins reincarnation, but it doesn't change a fact that he's no.1 driver and developer who should be able to drive ON the limit of the car, not over it. 8 crashes on 7 rallies, that's clearly too much. Toyota really pulled it off. Its crazy how competitive they are for a new team this season. I have no idea as to why Citroen would waste all of their R&D over budget cuts. They can offered it so why would they waste everything with a budget cut? That seems very strange. If I was Citroen I would revamp the whole car for the second half of the season. Stop to trying to make little adjustments to the current car and start work on a new one for the second half of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoMrWhite 19 Posted June 10, 2017 DiRTKiNG808 said: Toyota really pulled it off. Its crazy how competitive they are for a new team this season. I have no idea as to why Citroen would waste all of their R&D over budget cuts. They can offered it so why would they waste everything with a budget cut? That seems very strange. If I was Citroen I would revamp the whole car for the second half of the season. Stop to trying to make little adjustments to the current car and start work on a new one for the second half of the season. Yes, this season is basically lost. They can hope for strong results on the remaining tarmac rounds, but they should already develop the car for next season. And of course think about their driver lineup... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SRD_SimVansevenant 975 Posted June 10, 2017 Neuville's not having a great day. First the dust on first stage of the day and than no brakes for the entire 12th stage. He was livid and I can understand that as this was the rally to get back on Ogier's tail in the championship standings seeing that he's running down in 7th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scyy 0 Posted June 10, 2017 SimVansevenant said: Neuville's not having a great day. First the dust on first stage of the day and than no brakes for the entire 12th stage. He was livid and I can understand that as this was the rally to get back on Ogier's tail in the championship standings seeing that he's running down in 7th. Should be interesting to see if neuville can gain anymore ground on ogier now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALF 8 Posted June 10, 2017 What's going on with Redbull.tv? I can't watch the Rally. I click to watch and starts some other random show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaloSamo 0 Posted June 10, 2017 Kris is Citroen's development driver and has given feedback on Dirt 4's rally handling. Given problems of both of these it seems that maybe (just maybe) he isn't that good of a rally driver after all ;)OK, OK, it was only a joke, no need to throw rocks at me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
