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So I've come across some rumors that Qatar (Al-Attiyah) and VW would have come to an agreement to run the 2017 spec Polo WRC cars next season.

"IT WILL BE QATAR VOLKSWAGEN MOTORSPORT:
Qatar Investments have found common ground with FIA to run the the Volkswagen Motorsport Polo R WRC 2017 spec. The Qataris would have disbursed 15 Millions Euros for the homogation.
Confirmation and line up before Christmas"

Original message in Spanish(?):
"Será Qatar Volkswagen Motorsport, eso es lo que parece.......

Las inversiones de Qatar han encontrado un acuerdo en común con la FIA para homologar la especificación del VW Polo R WRC Plus 2017.
Los qataríes habrían desembolsado 15 millones de euros para la homologación total del vehículo alemán.
La onfirmación del proyecto se dará a conocer antes de navidad
Cada Volkswagen Polo R WRC Plus tiene un costo anual de 10 millones de euros / con el asesoramiento técnico exclusivo de VW Motorsport.
Se sabe que el príncipe Nasser Al-Attiyah conducirá el primer coche teutón, ante la negativa de Red Bull en introducirse totalmente en el programa. No hay grandes certezas para los otros pilotos posibles, se menciona a los noruegos Andreas Mikkelsen, Mads Østberg e Petter Solberg pensando en el Rally de Suecia, hasta el checo Martín Prokop, además del italiano Lorenzo Bertelli."


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It was a message on facebook from last night.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1200223463388193&id=557786540965225

Ofcourse it would be nice to see VW cars still in WRC,  but I doubt in the hands of Al-Attiyah it will be a championship winning car, unless he gets someone like Mikkelsen as second driver...
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Jepsertti said:
According to Finnish media the Polo WRC 2017 won't race next year (they used this as their source: http://speedweek.com/wrc/news/103245/WRC-Rueckkehr-von-VW-Projekt-wurde-beerdigt.html).
If I understand it correctly, Al-Attiyah wanted to create a team with 3 cars. One for himself, one for Mikkelsen and a 3rd car for Ostberg.
But he was counting on Redbull as main sponsor. They refused because Ogier wouldn't be one of the drivers.
I guess that means we might see a Redbull covered Fiesta WRC?
This really raises the question now what Mikkelsen and Ostberg will do
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he can still change the car turning the season. There are still rumors for Qatar VW Polo 2017 starting in Sweden. Which makes sence, because Nasser is competing in Dakar, so he'll miss Monte anyways. About Red Bull, they are sponsoring both Nasser (althou in Dakar) and Mikkelsen, mostly they (RB) care about winning and if Polo is capable car, I can't see why they can't back it :) 
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PaloSamo said:
http://www.fia.com/news/wrc-2017-fia-world-rally-championship-manufacturers

No VW then.
You dont need tu be Manufacturer in order to compete, if you are Manufacturer you are compromised to do every rally of the calendar. For example DMack WRT would not compete with his own team in Monte Carlo, but Elfyn Evans will compete with DMack tires in M-Sport team. And Nasser will not start in MC if he finance VW campaign,  that's why VW didn't appear. 
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PaloSamo said:
http://www.fia.com/news/wrc-2017-fia-world-rally-championship-manufacturers

No VW then.
You dont need tu be Manufacturer in order to compete, if you are Manufacturer you are compromised to do every rally of the calendar. For example DMack WRT would not compete with his own team in Monte Carlo, but Elfyn Evans will compete with DMack tires in M-Sport team. And Nasser will not start in MC if he finance VW campaign,  that's why VW didn't appear. 
From FIA WRC 2017 Sporting Regulations:

4. CARS ELIGIBLE TO ENTER WRC RALLIES

- World Rally Cars, complying with the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 255A, when entered by a Manufacturer.
- World Rally Cars homologated before 31.12.2013, complying with homologation extension 100/01 KSR and its WR extension, and with the 2013 Appendix J, Art. 255A. Only WRC cars with an FIA passport issued before 31/12/2016 are allowed.
- World Rally Cars homologated as from 01.01.2014, complying with homologation extension 200/01 WRC and with the 2016 Appendix J, Art. 255A. Only WRC cars with an FIA passport issued before 31/12/2016 are allowed.
- World Rally Cars homologated as from 01.01.2015, complying with homologation extension 300/01 WRC and with the 2016 Appendix J, Art. 255A. Only WRC cars with an FIA passport issued before 31/12/2016 are allowed.
- S2000 cars conforming to the 2013 Appendix J, Art. 254A and Art.255A.
- Group A Kit Cars with a corrected cylinder capacity of less than 1600cc.
- Group RGT cars conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 256.
- Group R cars (R1/R2/R3/R3T/R3D) conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 260 and 260D.
- Group R4 cars conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 260 (not eligible in Europe).
- Group R5 cars conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 261.
- Group A cars with a corrected cylinder capacity of up to 2000cc conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 255.
- Group N cars conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 254
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PaloSamo said:
PaloSamo said:
http://www.fia.com/news/wrc-2017-fia-world-rally-championship-manufacturers

No VW then.
You dont need tu be Manufacturer in order to compete, if you are Manufacturer you are compromised to do every rally of the calendar. For example DMack WRT would not compete with his own team in Monte Carlo, but Elfyn Evans will compete with DMack tires in M-Sport team. And Nasser will not start in MC if he finance VW campaign,  that's why VW didn't appear. 
From FIA WRC 2017 Sporting Regulations:

4. CARS ELIGIBLE TO ENTER WRC RALLIES

- World Rally Cars, complying with the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 255A, when entered by a Manufacturer.
- World Rally Cars homologated before 31.12.2013, complying with homologation extension 100/01 KSR and its WR extension, and with the 2013 Appendix J, Art. 255A. Only WRC cars with an FIA passport issued before 31/12/2016 are allowed.
- World Rally Cars homologated as from 01.01.2014, complying with homologation extension 200/01 WRC and with the 2016 Appendix J, Art. 255A. Only WRC cars with an FIA passport issued before 31/12/2016 are allowed.
- World Rally Cars homologated as from 01.01.2015, complying with homologation extension 300/01 WRC and with the 2016 Appendix J, Art. 255A. Only WRC cars with an FIA passport issued before 31/12/2016 are allowed.
- S2000 cars conforming to the 2013 Appendix J, Art. 254A and Art.255A.
- Group A Kit Cars with a corrected cylinder capacity of less than 1600cc.
- Group RGT cars conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 256.
- Group R cars (R1/R2/R3/R3T/R3D) conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 260 and 260D.
- Group R4 cars conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 260 (not eligible in Europe).
- Group R5 cars conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 261.
- Group A cars with a corrected cylinder capacity of up to 2000cc conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 255.
- Group N cars conforming to the 2017 Appendix J, Art. 254
IMHO VW Polo could still start after MC. VW will enter the car, but the team will be paid by Qatar or RB and will be named by the main sponsor. This is how Mads will compete with 2017 cars. 
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PaloSamo said:
My understanding of this situation is that it is now too late to sign up for the 2017 campaign as a manufacturer and to homologate a new car. Privateers can run VW Polo R only in a pre-2017 specification.
There was deadline for homologate the car, but there's no limit for sign up for rallies. Polo 2017 is homologated, if someone brings enough money to the table, VW will sign it up. There's a price for everything, rumor has it it's 10m $ per car in this case.
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Official news on Mikkelsen: http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/december-2016/mikkelsen-monte/page/4143--12-12-.html

A one-off WRC2 run for Monte, but no official word after that. My guess would be that he'll do privateer runs in some form of DMACK team for a few rallies, and maybe some Polo 2017 rallies if Qatar can pull it off. 
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http://www.vg.no/sport/motorsport/motorsport/mikkelsen-maa-utsette-vm-planen-gaar-for-gull-i-2018/a/23877895/

Here he states that he hopes to drive the VW Polo 2017 in rally Sweden if sponsorship can be fixed. So it looks like the hope of Polo '17 cars haven't died yet.
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