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Well 2016 season started.
VW: Ogier/Latvala/Mikkelsen
Citröen: Not starting in 2016
PH-Sport: Lefebvre/Meeke/Breen/Khalid Al-Qassimi
Hyundai: Paddon/Neuville/Sordo, Abbring at Hyundai R5 programme
M-Sport: Ostberg/Camilli
Fuckmatié WRT: Bertelli
DMack: Tänak
WRC2017: http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/35280/wrc-2018-thread/p37
WRC2018: http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/35280/wrc-2018-thread/p110
 

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I'm not sure if P. Solberg will be driving for a full season. I will be glad if It will be wrong, I am his fan since 2005. But maybe it will be self-titled Rally team and he will be challenging with DS3

Meeke should stay in Citroen...and Ostberg moves to M-Sport, why not. But anyway I think there will not any changings in Citroen WRT

M-Sport: Drop Tanak and Evans from the team will be a wrong decision. But I am as Russian have some hope for Eugeniy Novikov returning lol




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I will be honest: I don't want to see Lefebvre in the WRC in the following year. He won the WRC3 last year in interesting circumstances (if my informations are correct), and he something very similar happened with in this year in the WRC2 category - just before Citroen put him into the WRC category.

Instead of Lefebvre, I would like to see Sebastien Chardonnet in the WRC! :)

My lineup:
- VW: Ogier/Latvala/Mikkelsen
- Citroen: Meeke/Ostberg
- Hyundai: Neuville/Sordo & Paddon/Abbring
- M-Sport: Evans/Tänak
- M-Sport "B": Breen/Lappi or Tidemand
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I thought Neuville was contracted for next year? I've never heard uncertainty from him about next year despite this year not going great for him.

I think VW won't change, although Mikkelson deserves better than second team. But they do have the 3 best drivers in the best car!
Citroen: I hope they keep Kris and Mads, they both deserve another season
Hyundai should promote Paddon to first team with Neuville, see how he does next season.
M-sport is a tricky one, both Evans and Tanak have potential (Poland for tanak and Corsica for Evans) but they aren't title winning material just yet.

There is a huge amount of talent out there right now, it's just a bit of a shame that there is one dominant driver (Ogier) and one dominant team (VW), otherwise it would be extremely close and competitive
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szekto said:
I will be honest: I don't want to see Lefebvre in the WRC in the following year. He won the WRC3 last year in interesting circumstances (if my informations are correct), and he something very similar happened with in this year in the WRC2 category - just before Citroen put him into the WRC category.

Instead of Lefebvre, I would like to see Sebastien Chardonnet in the WRC! :)

My lineup:
- VW: Ogier/Latvala/Mikkelsen
- Citroen: Meeke/Ostberg
- Hyundai: Neuville/Sordo & Paddon/Abbring
- M-Sport: Evans/Tänak
- M-Sport "B": Breen/Lappi or Tidemand
I put Lefebvre because he recced all the rallyes and it is tied to Citröen, Evans and Tanak are out also, Tanak could have chances in a DMack team
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VW is set with Ogier, Latvala and Mikkelsen. No reason to change that.

Citroen skould keep Meeke, as he was the only driver who could sometimes challenge the VW's. Ostberg is slower, but quite dependable, Lefebvre not there yet. 3rd car for him, to prepare for 2017. So I guess no change here, too.

Hyundai should definitely promote Paddon to the first team and rotate the second seat between Neuville and Sordo. Abbring in the second team.

M-Sport: Evans still lacks the last ounce of speed, Tänak crashes too often. Difficult decision. Is there anyone out there who's better? Tidemand? Breen? Lappi will probably stay at Skoda.

So I think we will see only minor changes. Of course, it depends on Citroens decision. If they quit WRC after 2016 (hope not), it might be wise for Meeke and Ostberg to look for another drive now. Ostberg to M-Sport and Meeke to Hyundai perhaps. And maybe Malcolm Wilson loses his patience with Evans and Tänak.

Testing for Monte Carlo begins soon...

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I'm not sure if P. Solberg will be driving for a full season. I will be glad if It will be wrong, I am his fan since 2005. But maybe it will be self-titled Rally team and he will be challenging with DS3
As far as I'm aware Petter Solberg is doing the World Rallycross Championship again next year. Both his rallycross DS3's are currently up for sale (as is the team trailer) and there have been rumours that another rallycross team will be picking him up... but then I have also heard he is building a new rallycross DS3. Irrespective all the Solberg plans for 2016 I have heard involve rallycross! 

I would love to see Meeke in a VW. He is the only driver who has seemed to be able to consistently challenge the Polos. Admittedly he has binned it a few times; I would like to see him in a Polo to see if those prangs have been the result of him having to push the DS3 too hard in order to keep pace with the VW's...

...of course that seems unlikely to happen, so the next best thing would be for Citroen to pour more money into the WRC program and give Meeke a better car. 

I really like the Fiesta, but it just doesn't seem to be competitive. As others have said Evans and Tanak are both quick, but I wonder if a more experienced hand in the M-Sport car(s) might help push the Fiesta to the fore.
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I'm not sure if P. Solberg will be driving for a full season. I will be glad if It will be wrong, I am his fan since 2005. But maybe it will be self-titled Rally team and he will be challenging with DS3
As far as I'm aware Petter Solberg is doing the World Rallycross Championship again next year. Both his rallycross DS3's are currently up for sale (as is the team trailer) and there have been rumours that another rallycross team will be picking him up... but then I have also heard he is building a new rallycross DS3. Irrespective all the Solberg plans for 2016 I have heard involve rallycross! 

As far as I know Petter bought 3 new team trucks this year, and the one put out for sale is one of his old trucks. As for Petters involvement in WRX nest year I do not know, but he hinted about something WRC related in 2017 on the WRC radio on friday.

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Auduns said:

As far as I know Petter bought 3 new team trucks this year, and the one put out for sale is one of his old trucks. As for Petters involvement in WRX nest year I do not know, but he hinted about something WRC related in 2017 on the WRC radio on friday.

Auduns
Oooh, I hadn't heard that! I'm on the fence with regards to Petter; I'd love to see him back in the WRC again, but he is the best thing to happen to rallycross in the last couple of years, so I'd be gutted not to see him back in rallycross again in 2016.
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DMack WRT is what want Dicks Cormack (Owner of DMack) he want RC1's to use his tires and probably own Team, Tanak have a strong relationship with Dicks so that is his only chance, Evans and were telled to push as much as they can at WRGB, and malcolm said it was a shootout and both failed, also is angry with them about RACC, so both out of m-sport IMO. If M-Sport get a big sponsor Meeke maybe will be there, because he said he will put near all the money in a First driver to challenge for podiums in every round, or Neuville if Hyundai dont want him anymore
Wrote Dicks because his real name is banned LOL Dick
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Well, I'm a bit worried about the WRC for next year. It's a bit like Merc in F1 - there's no team and no driver that will challenge VW for the titles. Unless, the 2016 Hyundai turns out to be decent...

I also wish that Robert Kubica will stay in WRC category. I am a bit of a fanboy, but nevertheless think that he's got the potential to be a WRC star and near the top if given a chance.

So here's my predicted line-up:
VW: Same as 2015
Citroen: Meeke and Lefebvre/Ostberg
Hyundai: Paddon and Sordo, Abbring in the third car
M-Sport: Tanak, Neuville and Bertelli (there's a rumour Bertelli will bring lots of $$$ and have a factory seat)

My preferred line-up for 2016:
VW: Same as 2015
Citroen: Meeke and Lefebvre  (Ostberg is nothing special, Citroen will keep the French driver Lefebvre but his pace is average)
Hyundai: Paddon and Sordo, Kubica in the third car
M-Sport: Tanak, Neuville and Evans (but this won't happen unless M-Sport find a big sponsor)
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The thing with this year is, almost every driver at some point in the season has shown that they can mix it at the top:
Neuville in Sweden 
Ostberg in Spain
Paddon in Sardinia
Tanak in Poland
Mikkelson in Sweden/Spain
Evans in Corsica
Kubica in most places before he bins it
Latvala is always up there
Sordo can also show good results (Sardinia and Spain)
And then Ogier is just not human (other than Spain)
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The thing with this year is, almost every driver at some point in the season has shown that they can mix it at the top:
Neuville in Sweden 
Ostberg in Spain
Paddon in Sardinia
Tanak in Poland
Mikkelson in Sweden/Spain
Evans in Corsica
Kubica in most places before he bins it
Latvala is always up there
Sordo can also show good results (Sardinia and Spain)
And then Ogier is just not human (other than Spain)
You forgot Kris! At Wales and Argentina
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The thing with this year is, almost every driver at some point in the season has shown that they can mix it at the top:
Neuville in Sweden 
Ostberg in Spain
Paddon in Sardinia
Tanak in Poland
Mikkelson in Sweden/Spain
Evans in Corsica
Kubica in most places before he bins it
Latvala is always up there
Sordo can also show good results (Sardinia and Spain)
And then Ogier is just not human (other than Spain)
You forgot Kris! At Wales and Argentina
Yep, knew I forgot someone!
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I understand that in recent years privateers such as Prokop, Bertelli, Al-Qassimi or Protasov were welcome line-up fillers and sometimes brought points home. This is espcially true for Prokop.

But out of all those private teams only Kubica had the pace on both surfaces to mix it up and really get among the factory teams. I really can't understand why there isn't a company willing to sponsor Kubica's seat at a factory team for all the worldwide attention it would bring. It's beyond me, but I can see why a primarily Polish market based Lotos won't do it.

I'm biased again, but Toyota should have a good look at Kubica and keep him gaining experience in 2016, before taking him into the factory team.

Without a manufacturer support M-Sport will not provide a car capable of mixing it with the VWs and others - more cash for development is needed. What will happen with M-Sport for 2017 when new regs come into place?

Mads Ostberg - nice guy, but bringing P4-P8 doesn't excite people, and it's a sad state of affairs that Citroen is happy with that

Neuville - what happened to him?

Paddon - love this guy, 3 year contract with Hyundai was a great move for both

Meeke - he's got the pace, with a bit more job security he'll be a consistent frontrunner

WRC promoter - can do better

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Kubica has brilliant potential, just hope that if he is here next year he can show it.

And I really hope Thierry pulls his finger out next year! In 2014 he was winning stages and coming out in the interviews at the stage end saying he wasn't too happy and could have gone quicker! Hopefully next year will be his year again
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Personally I think Kubica has already had his chance to show what he can do, and sadly that is being blazing fast and wrecking early. Feels like he still has that formula mentality of hotlapping and that just wont work in rally. I dont blame teams for not taking him in, he exactly hasnt showed great rallying in his years of WRC.
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I heard over the weekend that while Petter will be doing WRX in 2016 it will be with VW. 
That's an interesting bit of gossip. I had wondered if there was a possible Toyota hook up in the works (as that would also tie in with Petter's Dakar comments a few months ago).

If Solberg does go down the VW route for rallycross I wonder if he will be driving as part of the Marklund or Kristoffersson teams, or if he will run as a privateer team again?
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My Preferred Lineup
VW: Ogier/Latvala/Mikkelsen
Citröen: Neuville/Ostberg/Lefebre
Hyundai: Paddon/Sordo/Abbring
M-sport: Meeke/Solberg
M-Sport II : Bertelli/Kubica mixed with Lappi
Lappi when Kubica does RC1 he RC2 to be WRC2 champion with New Fiesta R5
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tbtstt said:
I heard over the weekend that while Petter will be doing WRX in 2016 it will be with VW. 
That's an interesting bit of gossip. I had wondered if there was a possible Toyota hook up in the works (as that would also tie in with Petter's Dakar comments a few months ago).

If Solberg does go down the VW route for rallycross I wonder if he will be driving as part of the Marklund or Kristoffersson teams, or if he will run as a privateer team again?
I heard it'd be more of a factory VW effort.
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gheeD said:
Personally I think Kubica has already had his chance to show what he can do, and sadly that is being blazing fast and wrecking early. Feels like he still has that formula mentality of hotlapping and that just wont work in rally. I dont blame teams for not taking him in, he exactly hasnt showed great rallying in his years of WRC.
TBH I can't agree with you. You have to put few pretty strong points into the equation:
  • Kubica's still recovering after accident in which he almost lost his right hand. If you'll pay attention you can see in videos how he holds tools with his forearm instead of hand - he's simply not able to hold tools in his right hand
  • He's private team was made of 6 passionate people work their asses of.
  • Pirelli had really terrible season. Tyres coming off rims without puncturing them, really? They're efficient on sprints but when there's more kilometers to drive they simple wear of too fast.
  • He had like 3-4 training through whole season, while fabric teams have at least one training before each event.
  • Besides driving he had whole team-management thing on his head (at least for the first part of the season).
  • Transforming from racing driver to rally driver takes time. And the time has started to give results now.
I do strongly believe that they will find a place for him somwhere.
There are also roumors about Matton giving him a Citroen but not as a part of fabric team (possibly due Total-Lotos conflict of interests). I'm also pretty sure Wilson is strongly considering putting him into team - question is will Robert go with that as he already had experience with M-Sport in 2014?

I've also give a thought about Toyota hiring Kubica to help with developing the car until 2017 [he has quite experience with help in development for Mercedes] but this is no more to happen with rumours about Toyota not even starting in 2017.

My dreamteam's for 2016 would be:
VW: ...
Citroen: Meeke / Kubica
M-Sport: Evans / Ostberg (sorry for him I really like him but I need place for Robert ;) )
Hyundai: Sordo / Neuville and Paddon goin in for few rallies.

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I think Kajto would be similar to Evans, consistent but not super quick. To be honest, I think WRC is a step too far for Kubica at the moment, I really think he should have a crack at the full ERC; more tarmac events, at a level he's won at before. Use that series to build consistency (as it did for Neuville and Mikkelsen). Would be great to see a two car, Lotos-backed ERC effort.
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I think Kajto would be similar to Evans, consistent but not super quick. To be honest, I think WRC is a step too far for Kubica at the moment, I really think he should have a crack at the full ERC; more tarmac events, at a level he's won at before. Use that series to build consistency (as it did for Neuville and Mikkelsen). Would be great to see a two car, Lotos-backed ERC effort.
It would be kinda of step backwards...the gap between ERC and WRC is too big.
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Ostberg has such a poor reputation that I feel is massively undeserved, for the last couple of years he's managed a 'best of the rest' and done a great job with getting the best result possible for the car he HD, very much like Hirvonen did before. He's also only a year or two older than Tanak or Evans, th e same as Paddon and nearly a decade younger than Meeke. Citroen would do a decent job to keep both, unless Neuville was available and Matton reckons he can turn his clock back two years.
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Lets not forget that Kubica was the WRC2 champion in 2013 in an RRC, which is very close to WRC spec. He has also shown great outright speed and I definitely think he deserves to be in the WRC. However I think him wanting to run his own team due to his sponsorship deal is hurting him.
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I'd love something like this:

VW: Ogier, Latvala (WOO) and Mikkelsen (YEAH)
Citroen: Meeke and Neuville, perhaps Lefebvre
M-Sport: Evans and Ostberg/Bertelli
Hyundai: Sordo and Paddon, Abbring in the second team

Honestly, I think Meeke is a great, albeit sloppy driver. I can't bear see him go.

Hayden Paddon is absolutely incredible. If only he had a faster car... Give him a few years and he'll be scaring Ogier and Latvala.

Tänak is not good IMO. I had hopes for him but I feel he failed to deliver. I really like Elfyn though. I think he has potential.

Not much to say on Sordo, apart from his bad luck, or Abbring. Ostberg... meh. Nothing too extraordinary for me.

It's a shame Neuville dropped so low. He was really promising. What could have happened?

VW should stay the same. I genuinely think Latvala might win the championship next year, as long as he delivers like in 2014 all year long. Go JML!

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tbtstt said:
I heard over the weekend that while Petter will be doing WRX in 2016 it will be with VW. 
That's an interesting bit of gossip. I had wondered if there was a possible Toyota hook up in the works (as that would also tie in with Petter's Dakar comments a few months ago).

If Solberg does go down the VW route for rallycross I wonder if he will be driving as part of the Marklund or Kristoffersson teams, or if he will run as a privateer team again?
I heard it'd be more of a factory VW effort.
That is interesting. Marklund Motorsport have links to the VW WRC team and Kristoffersson Motorsport are sponsored by a dealership, but neither of them are proper works teams.

A VW full works effort would be pretty interesting to see but, personally, I hope that Petter sticks with the DS3. A couple of years ago the European Rallycross Championship was flooded with DS3's, but there were only a couple being used by the front runners this year. Would be a shame to see the DS3 completely disappear off the grid in 2016.
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