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I heard rumours that the main reason for VW's speed above the other teams is their suspension technology. Don't know how much truth to that, but supposedly its leaps and bounds ahead of the other teams
Yep that's right. It was very visible how each car handled the big bump on the inside of the right hander I was at on shakedown.
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I heard rumours that the main reason for VW's speed above the other teams is their suspension technology. Don't know how much truth to that, but supposedly its leaps and bounds ahead of the other teams
Slightly off topic, but the Andretti Autosport team (who run the VW Beetles in the American Global Rallycross Championship) have been accused of fitting some sort of trick traction control system to the cars. Impressive engineering (but incredibly poor sportsmanship!) if that is the case. 

As for the WRC Polos, they do look incredibly planted, even when they are travelling sideways at speed. 
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This is more of an opinion and wish than based on facts.  It would be cool to see Audi in WRC again, not sure how that would work out with VW owning them.  Some of the older 'members' stepping up to compete too would be nice.  Again if only $$$ was never an issue.
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I haven't seen anything of Tanak's retirement from GB, so I just watched his onboard on WRC+ of stage 16, and he was incredibly unlucky. It just looks like he touched a bank, which 99 times out of 100 wouldn't have done anything. There were videos of Ogier and Mikkelson hitting banks in the Polo twice as hard as Tanak did.
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Annoucement on the Citroen Racing website...

http://www.citroenracing.com/en/2015/news/wrc-news/69144/citroen-maps-out-its-sporting-future/

...indicates that Citroen will sit out the 2016 WRC season and return again in 2017. Bad news for Meeke and Ostberg! 
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KevM said:
Perhaps Meeke jumped ship before now, maybe he's been a catalyst in Citroen pulling 2016?  Strong rumours that he's for Hyundai.
Autosport are reporting that Ostberg won't be a part of Citroen's plans in 2016 and that they are still in talks with Meeke. 

The ideal solution would be for Citroen to allow Meeke to race for another marque in 2016, but I don't know how feasible that is (and it would surely be beneficial for Meeke to be involved with the development of the new car if he is to drive it in 2017). 

Short term the Citroen annoucement isn't great news as it seems even more likely that the 2016 season will be a VW whitewash. I personally think that's a price worth paying for seeing a decent 2017 season and beyond though: Citroen (hopefully) competitive again, VW, Ford, Hyundai and the return of Toyota.
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Areyouben said:
By the way, what happened with Matthew Wilson? I remember him getting injured at some point but looking back at the season trough the link @Porkhammer posted you can see him doing recce work. Was it just funding stopping his WRC career or something else?
I suspect that the fact he wasn't that good and only had a seat because Daddy ran the company might be the reason. 
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Areyouben said:
By the way, what happened with Matthew Wilson? I remember him getting injured at some point but looking back at the season trough the link @Porkhammer posted you can see him doing recce work. Was it just funding stopping his WRC career or something else?
Just find mattyjim1 on instagram and you will be automatically jelous about what he do, he tests thr fiesta and is the manager of Bentley MSport at GT3, BTW please Kris to MSport!
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KevM said:
Perhaps Meeke jumped ship before now, maybe he's been a catalyst in Citroen pulling 2016?  Strong rumours that he's for Hyundai.
Hyundai have no cars for top drivers, Neuville, Paddon and will not accept an old i20, they just have 2 new i20's , if they give a old one to Thierry he will retire from Hyundai Motorsport
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It's for the best for their future though, if they want to take the time to build a competitive car. Might be so that Meeke and Ostberg stay to test and develop the new car?

We'll see. 2017 is going to be a very interesting year, that's for sure.

2016 not so much. Looks like a walkover for VW. Somehow I don't believe, Hyundai will be able to close the gap. And M-Sport just hasn't got the same resources. Hope I'm wrong though.

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The drivers seem positive that Hyundai are making a big step forward next year with the new car. But this news is looking like we will be sacrificing 2016 for 2017 in terms of competitiveness and excitement


edit: Meeke and seb confirmed for part 2016 programme and 2017 development apparently 
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Today's announcement from Citroen makes no sense for me. They will quit the WRC for 1 year, and then they will enter it in 2017 again...Why the heck they can't participate in 2016, just like collecting the kms and experience for the future?
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szekto said:
Today's announcement from Citroen makes no sense for me. They will quit the WRC for 1 year, and then they will enter it in 2017 again...Why the heck they can't participate in 2016, just like collecting the kms and experience for the future?



$$.

They need $ for developing new car that could compete with already developed VW for 2017.

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szekto said:
Today's announcement from Citroen makes no sense for me. They will quit the WRC for 1 year, and then they will enter it in 2017 again...Why the heck they can't participate in 2016, just like collecting the kms and experience for the future?
Maybe they don't have the budget and would rather put all the money into 2017
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Yeah, the current car has been in development since 2010/1 - no more major gains to be made with it and might as well focus on the new car rather than chase second in a championship (against a new Hyundai) again. They can also take stock of the driver market in case Neuville, Ogier or Latvala become available for 2017. Makes perfect sense; great news for rallying IMO.

Maybe if it isn't a 'current' car though, it would be eligible for DiRT Rally. You know, like the Hyundai i20 (2 door) isn't 'current' any more.......
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szekto said:
Today's announcement from Citroen makes no sense for me. They will quit the WRC for 1 year, and then they will enter it in 2017 again...Why the heck they can't participate in 2016, just like collecting the kms and experience for the future?


It makes sense, because the 2017 cars will be all new and they need someone to test and develop them. Drivers with a full season in the "old" car wouldn't be available often enough.

Keeping Meeke and Lefebvre makes sense, too - if that is confirmed. They need at least one driver with some experience. Apparently Kris is willing to sacrifice one year and Lefebvre still needs some time to develop anyway. Let's just hope they do a few rallies to make things more interesting in 2016.

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EDIT: Didn't realise Citroen were taking part still, just not in a competitive programme. My first thought was that they were going to miss the season altogether. 
They will, as a team, but I suspect they'll pay for PH Sport to run Meeke and Lefebvre in a few European events, both to keep their hand in and to incentive development of the new car, in Meeke's case. It won't be like Kronos running full season in 2006.
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szekto said:
Today's announcement from Citroen makes no sense for me. They will quit the WRC for 1 year, and then they will enter it in 2017 again...Why the heck they can't participate in 2016, just like collecting the kms and experience for the future?
I personally don't think the current-spec DS3 is on par with the Polo. Why pour money and development trying to sort that car when it will be redundant at the end of the year anyway? 

I think their plan makes perfect sense: and it's good news for the WRC in the long term as Citroen seem to have a renewed interest in it again.
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I can see the reasoning  behind Citroen's decision to miss out on 2016 and come back strong in 2017 when the beasty new cars will come in.

However, that leaves up to 9 factory seats in the 2016 championships, out of which 5-6 are very firm. I do think there's more talented drivers deserving a WRC drive than 9... And that will leave without much to do in 2016...

The sad state of WRC is that even for privateers it's challenging to attract sponsors willing to fork out for a full campaign, as they just don't see the return in terms of promotion.

Are VW going about WRC in a good way? Absolutely yes - they've created an unbeatable combo of team + car + driver and it seems no other manufacturer wants to go that HARD at WRC. It's quite interesting that VW still want to do it, with the emissions scandal going on.

I hoped there would be some movement in the factory teams for next year, but there just won't be any. 2016 will be a bit of gap, slow year after which we'll hopefully see a good revolution.
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