sqdstr Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/taenak-rejoins-dmack-to-launch-first-ever-wrc-team.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 That's another team and another tire manufacturer competing. Dmack can't replace Citroen, of course, but more diversity is always good. Especially as M-Sport might not do the whole season, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'm glad we have at least one more season with tanak. I think he has more to give, and hopefully he shows it next year and proves me right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I haven't heard it anywhere official, but there are rumours surrounding M-Sport and the World Rallycross Championship next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 That would be interesting. I'm amazed at how much money they can spend on Motorsport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 RallyDriven said: That would be interesting. I'm amazed at how much money they can spend on Motorsport! Malcolm wilson is a Motorsport Business Man, he earns lots of money every year by selling and hiring cars, so it is probable to have a Car at RX to show how Fast his rx Car is, his rx is the one who Mr block uses,what if Mr Wilson want to use the same driver in RX and in WRC?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkhammer Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Fedemaisonnave said: what if Mr Wilson want to use the same driver in RX and in WRC?? He will be disappointed at the WRC results? Block can't really perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Porkhammer said: Fedemaisonnave said: what if Mr Wilson want to use the same driver in RX and in WRC?? He will be disappointed at the WRC results? Block can't really perform. Block no porky, i thought about petter, block sucks and thats why he want a driver at wrx, because if ken block doesnt do it so bad with his Car a proper driver will fight for the win every race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Fedemaisonnave said: RallyDriven said: That would be interesting. I'm amazed at how much money they can spend on Motorsport! Malcolm wilson is a Motorsport Business Man, he earns lots of money every year by selling and hiring cars, so it is probable to have a Car at RX to show how Fast his rx Car is, his rx is the one who Mr block uses,what if Mr Wilson want to use the same driver in RX and in WRC?? Yeah, M-Sport built the "RX43" that Block has used in the Global Rallycrash Championship the last couple of years. When Block appeared in a couple of World Rallycross rounds in Europe last year it was a second M-Sport rallycross Fiesta. M-Sport also supplied the rallycross Fiestas used by Chip Ganassi Racing (and I think Bryan Herta Racing) as well. Porkhammer said: Fedemaisonnave said: what if Mr Wilson want to use the same driver in RX and in WRC?? He will be disappointed at the WRC results? Block can't really perform. Without meaning to retread very old ground, I would strongly disagree with this statement. Block is a very competent driver; yeah, he isn't competitive at WRC level, but he dips his toe in and out, you can't expect him to be. At a National level he is very competent and he is very, very quick in a rallycross car as well. I went to Loheac (for the World Rallycross) with a couple of anti-Block mates last year. Both of them were eating their words by midway through the weekend: he set an outright lap record in France that no one (including Petter Solberg) managed to beat. In my opinion Block's PR team are both his greatest strength and biggest weakness; it is thanks to them that he is able to fund all these ventures, but also thanks to them that a lot of serious motorsport fans seem to turn their nose up at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Block is Fast at RX because he have the best Car, his Fiesta RX is far better than every RX car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Fedemaisonnave said: Block is Fast at RX because he have the best Car, his Fiesta RX is far better than every RX car I wouldn't say "far better", though there is no doubt it's a very well built car. That aside several GRC drivers are now in M-Sport Fiestas and Block is still faster (it's just a pity that most of the GRC tracks favour luck rather than skill). I would also argue that Solberg's DS3 is a contender for "best rallycross car" (his is the only other car using Pipo engines) and, after the development in 2015, the Peugeot-Hansen 208 would also be up there for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklyshankly Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Ostberg and Camilli are cofirmed for M-Sport 2016 lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 franklyshankly said: Ostberg and Camilli are cofirmed for M-Sport 2016 lineup. Yes,awful choice i think, Ostberg is ok but Camilli sucks in comparison with the skoda drivers and suninen, dont know if camilli have put a big wage for the seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklyshankly Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Fedemaisonnave said: franklyshankly said: Ostberg and Camilli are cofirmed for M-Sport 2016 lineup. Yes,awful choice i think, Ostberg is ok but Camilli sucks in comparison with the skoda drivers and suninen, dont know if camilli have put a big wage for the seat Money talks, I thnik. I've checked his stas: only R2 and R3T poor experience, no wins, no champs, crashes...and then he is moving to WRC2, and now to WRC. And remember he is almost 30 years. Really? Why not Kubica, Protasov...Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 franklyshankly said: Fedemaisonnave said: franklyshankly said: Ostberg and Camilli are cofirmed for M-Sport 2016 lineup. Yes,awful choice i think, Ostberg is ok but Camilli sucks in comparison with the skoda drivers and suninen, dont know if camilli have put a big wage for the seat Money talks, I thnik. I've checked his stas: only R2 and R3T poor experience, no wins, no champs, crashes...and then he is moving to WRC2, and now to WRC. And remember he is almost 30 years. Really? Why not Kubica, Protasov...Evans. I know that Malcolm was last year saying camilli ls great, camilli is the best, but for a WRC instead of Kubica, or as i said any other top notch WRC2 driver? It is really strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 franklyshankly said: Fedemaisonnave said: franklyshankly said: Ostberg and Camilli are cofirmed for M-Sport 2016 lineup. Yes,awful choice i think, Ostberg is ok but Camilli sucks in comparison with the skoda drivers and suninen, dont know if camilli have put a big wage for the seat Money talks, I thnik. I've checked his stas: only R2 and R3T poor experience, no wins, no champs, crashes...and then he is moving to WRC2, and now to WRC. And remember he is almost 30 years. Really? Why not Kubica, Protasov...Evans. I know that Malcolm was last year saying camilli ls great, camilli is the best, but for a WRC instead of Kubica, or as i said any other top notch WRC2 driver? It is really strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklyshankly Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Fedemaisonnave said: franklyshankly said: Fedemaisonnave said: franklyshankly said: Ostberg and Camilli are cofirmed for M-Sport 2016 lineup. Yes,awful choice i think, Ostberg is ok but Camilli sucks in comparison with the skoda drivers and suninen, dont know if camilli have put a big wage for the seat Money talks, I thnik. I've checked his stas: only R2 and R3T poor experience, no wins, no champs, crashes...and then he is moving to WRC2, and now to WRC. And remember he is almost 30 years. Really? Why not Kubica, Protasov...Evans. I know that Malcolm was last year saying camilli ls great, camilli is the best, but for a WRC instead of Kubica, or as i said any other top notch WRC2 driver? It is really strange About Camilli is "great and the best" should saying his results, not Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfCoins Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I have a feeling that Toyota is paying for Eric Canilli's seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 franklyshankly said: Fedemaisonnave said: franklyshankly said: Fedemaisonnave said: franklyshankly said: Ostberg and Camilli are cofirmed for M-Sport 2016 lineup. Yes,awful choice i think, Ostberg is ok but Camilli sucks in comparison with the skoda drivers and suninen, dont know if camilli have put a big wage for the seat Money talks, I thnik. I've checked his stas: only R2 and R3T poor experience, no wins, no champs, crashes...and then he is moving to WRC2, and now to WRC. And remember he is almost 30 years. Really? Why not Kubica, Protasov...Evans. I know that Malcolm was last year saying camilli ls great, camilli is the best, but for a WRC instead of Kubica, or as i said any other top notch WRC2 driver? It is really strange About Camilli is "great and the best" should saying his results, not Wilson. Yes, dont know what have malcolm seen in him, he have good pace when he not crash but he crashed more than Robert lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecraicbear Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I love that Ostberg is going back to MSport; I think he's great, and he'll definitely do better back in a Fiesta. Camilli on the other hand... 10 WRC starts, and 10th or whatever it was in WRC2... I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Strange decisions indeed. Maybe Ostberg can get his mojo back in the Fiesta, but I'm not so sure about that. He was beaten quite regularly by Meeke although he had more experience in the most rallies.Camilli - we'll have to wait. He was fast sometimes, but prone to mistakes. And the WRC cars are quicker. See what they did to Kubicas record, after he switched to WRC.I would have kept Evans. After all, he was closer to the top in 2015 than in 2014 and maybe could have taken the next step. Maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
function9 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I thought Ostberg was having better results at Citroen than he ever had at M-Sport? And I'm disappointed Evans isn't getting at least one more year to show his stuff, this is only his second season in a WRC car right? Maybe he was wanting too much money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruben Correa Alves Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It was confirmed on Friday that Tänak will drive all 14 rounds for the new DMACK World Rally Team while the M-Sport door is not closed for Evans.“The team is still in discussion with Elfyn and there is potential for him to have some form of programme in 2016. News of this potential programme will be announced when known,” added the spokesperson. So things are not over for Elfyn just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Considering the experience of Evans and Kunica, I can't believe they picked Camilli over them. Evans and Kubica might not be the best, but their experience of rallies and the car are not comparible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkhammer Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yeah Evans is awesome, even though he looks like a malnourished rodent, and Kubica is just cool. I never even heard of this Camilli fellow. y u do dis wrc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecraicbear Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 function9 said: I thought Ostberg was having better results at Citroen than he ever had at M-Sport? And I'm disappointed Evans isn't getting at least one more year to show his stuff, this is only his second season in a WRC car right? Maybe he was wanting too much money? Some people forget that he was most competitive when in a Fiesta, when he was a privateer. He's always said it's been his most comfortable car, and I'm hoping he finds the form he once had during his privateer days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Evans might go with Bertelli, Evans is only Fast when everyone hessitate and they have his same pace because he hessitate everywhere, he is not confident and afraid to crash, Camilli i know about him but he is not mature enough to go on a manufacturer Team, but maybe ffsa money was decisive for Mr. Wilson, he might have some good results(no podiums, but better pace than Evans) and i think is a more surfaces driver, thats why Wilson pulled out Evans and Tanak, evans only Fast in tarmac because he have more grip and he felt confortable and Tanak just Fast in places where only a maniatic can go flat out, and he dislike the tarmac because his poor experience in it, and it is more technical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodgerDavies Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 thecraicbear said: function9 said: I thought Ostberg was having better results at Citroen than he ever had at M-Sport? And I'm disappointed Evans isn't getting at least one more year to show his stuff, this is only his second season in a WRC car right? Maybe he was wanting too much money? Some people forget that he was most competitive when in a Fiesta, when he was a privateer. He's always said it's been his most comfortable car, and I'm hoping he finds the form he once had during his privateer days. I always think he was more competitive before the VWs entered! He's arguably been the second most impressive driver this year, behind Ogier, if getting the best results without overdriving count for anything. He's done a great job this last year, deserves a full season next; personally I think he's improved dramatically and think Citroen might regret losing him in a year's time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 Rumours of a Monster Rallycross Team with Block and Petter Solberg which can include a WRC programme for Petter, so good news for WRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 To be honest if block comes to world rx it will only be good. It will distract the Americans from global rallycrash and will bring it even more coverage. Tanner Foust should get a full world rx drive too, that would make things interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 RallyDriven said: To be honest if block comes to world rx it will only be good. It will distract the Americans from global rallycrash and will bring it even more coverage. Tanner Foust should get a full world rx drive too, that would make things interesting Foust would be another brilliant addition; he made such a great first impression when he started doing European Rallycross it would be fantastic to see him fully commit to the World Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheets Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Bertelli in a "new" team for 2016 driving in Fiesta WRC prepared and run by M-Sport's customer team. No name for the team yet. Will drive all except China. http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/november-2015/bertelli-in-2016/page/3028--12-12-.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 cheets said: Bertelli in a "new" team for 2016 driving in Fiesta WRC prepared and run by M-Sport's customer team. No name for the team yet. Will drive all except China. http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/november-2015/bertelli-in-2016/page/3028--12-12-.html Yes maybe new sponsor for Lorenzo or just mum's help but with sposoring for mum, and be Prada WRT with another driver i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevM Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I see Meekes rumoured to be on the verge of closing a deal with Toyota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 KevM said: I see Meekes rumoured to be on the verge of closing a deal with Toyota Yeah, I really like Meeke, but I'm unsure on how good he is. He can either be challenging for the lead or well off. But I would like to see him at Toyota. 2017 will definitely be an interesting year, I wonder if Volkswagen well remain as they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevM Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 VW, they likely will, but Toyota, I'm not so sure....Its shaping up to be a possible ego-tickler for Tommi Mak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecraicbear Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 RallyDriven said: KevM said: I see Meekes rumoured to be on the verge of closing a deal with Toyota Yeah, I really like Meeke, but I'm unsure on how good he is. He can either be challenging for the lead or well off. But I would like to see him at Toyota. 2017 will definitely be an interesting year, I wonder if Volkswagen well remain as they are? VW will be remaining as they are, running 3 cars with the same 3 drivers, despite what has happened to VW this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqdstr Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Ostberg needs to find a new co-driver, Andersson will co-drive Tidemand next year in WRC2 with a Fabia R5http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/december-2015/ostberg-in-co-driver-hunt/page/3037--12-12-.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 sqdstr said: Ostberg needs to find a new co-driver, Andersson will co-drive Tidemand next year in WRC2 with a Fabia R5http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/december-2015/ostberg-in-co-driver-hunt/page/3037--12-12-.html Yes, the next Codriver for mads will be Emil Axelsson or Ilka Minor. Meeke to Toyota is really probable and we are almost at the end of the guessing :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfCoins Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Apparently Ola Fløene is joining Mads Østberg for next season.http://www.tv2.no/2015/12/06/sport/rally/7752946 (In Norwegian)I can honestly say that I didn't expect that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Just came to post the same thing, very odd to move from the third best driver in the best team to mads at m-sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfCoins Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Well Mads is the fourth best driver if you go by the final points. But I get what you mean. It's gonna be interesting to see who Andreas's new co-driver is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I could be wrong, but all I can see is Andrea's improving next year, and mads staying the same or getting worse. I like mads, but it just seems odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevM Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 What way do you think Thierry will go next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 RallyDriven said: I could be wrong, but all I can see is Andrea's improving next year, and mads staying the same or getting worse. I like mads, but it just seems odd Mads have objectives to achieve this two last years, that were finish all the rallyes, he said at the podcast of wrc this week that this year he will attack a lot more and he feels confortable in the Fiesta so im really looking forward to what he can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 KevM said: What way do you think Thierry will go next year? Well, it is said that Thierry do not have a good relationship with Hyundai and he want to leave but Hyundai know that if they let him go they will have another Car to beat, and i am sure that they dont mind about the thierry's results, they changed his engineer after some argues with mandan, and after that Thierry never battled the VW as he can, so i think that hyundai Gives thierry a worst Car and thats why he crashes because he needs to go flat to go con the rythm of sordo and paddon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevM Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 It's unfortunate, as with M-Sport, he was coming on form. He'd be a great team-mate for Meeke at Citroen (oh yeah, rumour has it that Abu Dhabi is back on for 2016, so they might have a full package in the pipeline). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Fedemaisonnave said: RallyDriven said: I could be wrong, but all I can see is Andrea's improving next year, and mads staying the same or getting worse. I like mads, but it just seems odd Mads have objectives to achieve this two last years, that were finish all the rallyes, he said at the podcast of wrc this week that this year he will attack a lot more and he feels confortable in the Fiesta so im really looking forward to what he can do Yeah don't get me wrong, I'd love to see mads pushing for top results, and I don't doubt his consistency this year, I just would have thought Andreas would have been a better bet, especially after Spain.I want Thierry back in form, hope the new car is better for him. Wonder what he could do with another team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMaiso99 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 RallyDriven said: Fedemaisonnave said: RallyDriven said: I could be wrong, but all I can see is Andrea's improving next year, and mads staying the same or getting worse. I like mads, but it just seems odd Mads have objectives to achieve this two last years, that were finish all the rallyes, he said at the podcast of wrc this week that this year he will attack a lot more and he feels confortable in the Fiesta so im really looking forward to what he can do Yeah don't get me wrong, I'd love to see mads pushing for top results, and I don't doubt his consistency this year, I just would have thought Andreas would have been a better bet, especially after Spain.I want Thierry back in form, hope the new car is better for him. Wonder what he could do with another team? With any other team he will fight for the top places, and i am sure if he has the same Car than sordo and Paddon he will fight also, like in sweden last year and Mexico also his pace was really good, well until he argued with nandan, he is the only man who can beat ogier and Hyundai is not using it, what a waste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfCoins Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Anders Jæger will be the new co-driver for Andreas Mikkelsen next year. Which makes perfect sense since he was supposed to take over from Ola in the 2017 season.https://www.andreasmikkelsen.no/news/anders-jaeger-to-co-drive-andreas-mikkelsen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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