Pfei Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Dytut said: And if Ogier switches to Citroën Lappi might be interesteed in being the No.1 driver at M-Sport.... Please let it be Meeke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/september-2018/neuville-hyundai-contract/page/5722--12-12-.htmlNot unsurprising, but that means no major movement in the Hyundai camp. Still uncertain about Paddon and Sordo. I think Sordo might possibly move to another team or even retire, but more unlikely that Paddons moves since he has his whole Hyundai deal back home. My money is on a split car for Sordo/Paddon next year aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Neuville and Ogier split by 0.3 seconds after the first day of Turkey after a quite weird day. Very impressive from both of them, running first on the road. Wonder if they'll dare put up a fight like Sardinia again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpa Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Well this is getting quite interesting. Everytime I open Instagram there's a new story from WRC and you can bet it's a car out... Good thing is, if he can keep it on the road, Tanak is back into the title fight basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 This has been such a tough event! I saw a really sad photo on twitter of Tanak hugging Craig Breen as his car burnt out. Poor bloke never has any luck!If Tanak can hold on it will be interesting going into the last 3 rounds of the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfCoins Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 I wasn't the biggest fan when they announced Turkey to be part of the WRC this year. But this has turned into quite the breath of fresh air for the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Yeah was great to see more of an endurance event again :-) I thought it was going to be a fight between Ogier and Neuville on saturday, but it just goes to show that you have to drive with your brain on these events. Granted, Ogiers off was a massive mistake on his part, but for the rest it really was a case of go faster than Ott and your car breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqdstr Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Dytut said: Yeah was great to see more of an endurance event again :-) I thought it was going to be a fight between Ogier and Neuville on saturday, but it just goes to show that you have to drive with your brain on these events. Granted, Ogiers off was a massive mistake on his part, but for the rest it really was a case of go faster than Ott and your car breaks. I disagree, Neuville made no mistakes whatsoever from his side, he was just very unlucky his suspension broke for no reason at all, otherwise he would have been the one on the top step.Tanak himself admitted as well that he was lacking the pace to keep up, he's just lucky his car didn't break and Ogier made mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 sqdstr said: Dytut said: Yeah was great to see more of an endurance event again :-) I thought it was going to be a fight between Ogier and Neuville on saturday, but it just goes to show that you have to drive with your brain on these events. Granted, Ogiers off was a massive mistake on his part, but for the rest it really was a case of go faster than Ott and your car breaks. I disagree, Neuville made no mistakes whatsoever from his side, he was just very unlucky his suspension broke for no reason at all, otherwise he would have been the one on the top step.Tanak himself admitted as well that he was lacking the pace to keep up, he's just lucky his car didn't break and Ogier made mistakes Yeah I agree that Neuville made no mistake per se, but the constant theme for the weekend really was that the car broke down if you went faster than Otts tempo. Granted, Ott held that tempo more out of lack of pace than anything else, but consistently going faster than that seemed to make something break. Ogier's wishbone wasn't really a mistake on his part either, and neither was Breen's fire or Ostbergs suspension and later turbo failure. Mikkelsen didn't really make a mistake when his transmission broke either. The only real mistakes that ended rallies were Ogier and Lappi, and maybe Evans could've avoided that rock aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juu1ius Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 sqdstr said: I disagree, Neuville made no mistakes whatsoever from his side, he was just very unlucky his suspension broke for no reason at all, otherwise he would have been the one on the top step.Tanak himself admitted as well that he was lacking the pace to keep up, he's just lucky his car didn't break and Ogier made mistakes Who knows how many rock he hit to be fastest on the road before the suspension broke? I'm quite sure that's why Ogier used Sachs suspension on this rally again - more reliable than Rieger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Silly season continues: https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/meeke-on-toyota-radar-for-wrc-2019-return/3179672/So Lappi looking more and more likely to go to Citroën, as we suspected. And Meeke a possibility for Toyota. A lot depending on what Ogier does now. If Citroën scales up to 3 cars next year they might settle on Lappi-Breen-Ostberg, but if Ogier switches then I'd wager that Ostberg loses his spot. And in that case, might Meeke go for the no.1 spot in M-Sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I really hope we see both breen and ostberg in a full seat next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I think Ogier would be mad to go to Citroen, but they have always favoured national drivers so perhaps he can succeed where others have failed. I think M-Sport is the place where Meeke is most likely to redeem himself. I hope he gets the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juu1ius Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 There's one rally blog in Estonia and the author is usually quite reliable source, he's saying that Ogier and Lappi both have signed 2y contracts with Citroen. 3rd driver should be Breen. If Ogier goes, M-Sport will lose Red Bull and Wilson will need someone with deep pockets - Mads and Sordo both can bring their own sponsors, so Evans, Sunninen and Mads or Sordo for M-Sport? Toyota needs third - Meek or some one new? Jari Hutunen are rumored, but tbh I don't think that happens, he's still too green. Tideman deserves a shot at WRC, but another strong rumor is Skoda returning to WRC class, witch makes sense as VW is returning with WRC2 project and also there's that Skoda team new fancy factory. Hyundai will remain same and Paddon gets full season. Actually I would like something like this:Citroen: Ogier, Lappi, Breen. - Ogier developes great car and retires 2020, Lappi has great chance at future.M-Sport: Meek, Latvala, Sunnine - Meek and Latvala could bring home another team title and Sunning can develop another year and peak on the next after that. Toyota: Tänak, Sordo and some one from WRC2 (Kalle maybe?) - Toyota plans Katsuta to be WRC driver sooner than later. I bet we'll see him as 3rd driver in two years. That means Toyota needs one reliable driver for points (thats Sordo as in my dream Latvala joins with M-Sport) and one who can take get used to the car and team and take Sordos place when Katsuta enter's the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F2CMaDMaXX Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Interesting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Interesting stuff there @juu1ius :-)If Ogier and Lappi both get signed for Citroën it's going to get interesting. I suspect they will keep Breen on as a third driver in that case, but they might keep Ostberg on instead.As you say, someone with strong sponsor ties is always good for M-Sport, so Mads and Sordo are prime candidates. Mads also has quite a bit of experience with the car. Together with Suninen they might have a decent shot at the manufacturers title, but neither of them feels like a contender for the drivers title. Outside chance that Latvala might move there, but I personally don't think so. Evans... he's hanging on by a thread after this season. Meeke is a maybe as a real drivers title challenger.Toyota will most likely keep Latvala with Tänak, which might work better when it's clear that Tänak is their no.1 driver so Latvala can relax from the fight in the team. Third driver in Toyota... hmmm... Katsuta maybe, but I'd be stoked to see Tidemand get a chance. Meeke is still an option here.If Skoda would go for 2019 though... Imagine Tidemand and Kopecky in a car that they've developed in secret for the last year. If Skoda would join I feel like we would've seen or heard something more substantial by now though. Might be that they aim for a return to the main act in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accro2008 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 The rally Monte Carlo 2019 guide is out with a very interesting info : http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/RAMC-2019-Rallye-Guide-1-FR.pdfIn page 3 Christian Tornatore (Chief Marshall) of the Automobile Club of Monaco makes a quick presentation of the event where you can read : "Un nouveau constructeur automobile pourrait faire son apparition au Championnat du Monde, nous le saurons avant la fin de l’année……"Which translate to :"A new car manufacturer might make an appearance in the World Championship, we will know about it before the end of the year ....."So which manufacturer is it ? Skoda ? Somebody else ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogani Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Accro2008 said: The rally Monte Carlo 2019 guide is out with a very interesting info : http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/RAMC-2019-Rallye-Guide-1-FR.pdfIn page 3 Christian Tornatore (Chief Marshall) of the Automobile Club of Monaco makes a quick presentation of the event where you can read : "Un nouveau constructeur automobile pourrait faire son apparition au Championnat du Monde, nous le saurons avant la fin de l’année……"Which translate to :"A new car manufacturer might make an appearance in the World Championship, we will know about it before the end of the year ....."So which manufacturer is it ? Skoda ? Somebody else ? Polo R5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I suspect it's just the Polo R5 for WRC2, but there is a slim chance that it's a Skoda WRC. I can't really think of any other manufacturer that might go for it. If it's Skoda, they might have a reworked Polo WRC17 as their core car, which would be quite a challenger to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyNevada Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Volkswagen isn't new to the sport. English version also has 2019 WRC mentioned while the Polo R5 starts in Spain this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I can’t really see it. Look at when Hyundai, VW and Toyota joined, they were testing for months/years before their first event. Even if it is a reskinned Polo, it would still need to be tested again and developed more before next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accro2008 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Could this be more than a private rallycross project ?Maybe there is an official Skoda involvement in that project.Also this, maybe a way to test some parts undercover : Just a few crazy hypothesis.Otherwise it could also be porsche bringing the cayman rgt to customers after the experiment in Germany with Romain Dumas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevM Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 RallyDriven said: I can’t really see it. Look at when Hyundai, VW and Toyota joined, they were testing for months/years before their first event. Even if it is a reskinned Polo, it would still need to be tested again and developed more before next year. Yeah, but VW usually do their testing wearing a Skoda badge. There may be a VW come-back, but it’s years away. Maybe Skoda WRC is a way back in to a much-changed sport without actually risking the VW WRC brand reputation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Yeah the fact that we've not seen or heard pretty much anything about them testing a car should mean they won't join. If they've managed to build and test at WRC17 car and kept it a complete secret then I'm impressed.Some things might mean they're working on it though. The fact that VW enters with an R5 car kind of means that Skoda should change focus, since it won't be much of a point for two makes from the same owner battling in the same class. Also, Tidemand and Kopecky seem veeeeery content where they are and don't seem at all stressed out about not getting a place in the WRC class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqdstr Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Peugeot first came out with the 208 R5 but then Citroen followed with the DS3 R5. Both brands are also from the same group so I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is the case with VW & Skoda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Allright people! Get your popcorn! the circus is about to start!https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/september-2018/ogier-citroen-2019/page/5764--12-12-.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipperGP Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Don't blame him, if Ford couldn't commit properly now then they never will in the WRC again.Just a shame M-Sport cannot find another manufacturer to work with who are more serious about Rallying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 It’s crazy that ford had a world champion sat in one of their cars and didn’t want their name associated with it.Reading Ogier’s comments make sense to me, he wants to win a title for a third manufacturer, which will be a great challenge and help to further prove that he is one of the all time greats (as if he needs to do much more than he’s already done) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Just saw the story on Facebook. I think Ogier is mad to move to Citroen, but fair play to him for trying to spread his wings. His departure makes the 2019 driver line up more difficult to guess as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Yep. We'll see if Lappi will actually make his move to Citroën now. Most interesting will be who will drive for M-Sport. Meeke? Quite possible.Latvala? Maybe, but sounds like he'll stay at Toyota.Ostberg? Knows the car, but not quite a #1 driver.Tidemand? Slight maybe, not a #1Breen? Maybe if Citroën would fire him, but think he'll stay where he isLappi? Not likely, he apparently don't have much love for M-SportKopecky? Maybe, same as Tidemand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipperGP Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 think most likely line up now is:Toyota - Tanak, JML, MeekeHyundai - Neuville, Mikklesen, Sordo/PaddenCitroen - Ogier, Lappi, BreenM-Sport - Sunninen, Evans and probably Ostberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 No big surprise, but Suninen is confirmed for M-Sport at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/139094/ogier-citroen-no-longer-doing-things-by-halfAllright then, if Citroën is going all in then that must mean they're going for a real three car lineup for 2019. I think they can actually make do with Ogier - Ostberg - Breen. Ostberg and Breen are both podium contenders. Lots of talk about Lappi maybe joining up, but if he gets the #2 spot then I'd be hard pressed to choose between OStberg and Breen for the last seat. I'd suspect Citroën will go for Breen in that case. But... my money is on both Ostberg and Breen staying with Citroën for the next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipperGP Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Not been confirmed yet but think Lappi to Citroen deal has already been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juu1ius Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 so another rumor - https://www.facebook.com/mwmsports/posts/879718102227794Breen has offers from M-SPort 2+1y or Toyota, interesting choices. I would go for Toyota i guess - fast car, great budget and even better possibility to over come disappointing 2018 season. Redemption for Meek in M-SPort ? :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/ogier-gave-ford-ultimatum-before-citroen-switch/3188115/Oh Ford, I will never understand why you hate rallying so much nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJWxS_-7brATänak makes a whoopsie on shakedown. Is he finally showing some nerves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyNevada Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 If you listen closely, the engine stalled mid braking (common issue for Toyota). Nothing to do with the championship battle nerves.The car is now on the trailer and heading back to service, radiator is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbates66 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 CrazyNevada said: If you listen closely, the engine stalled mid braking (common issue for Toyota). Nothing to do with the championship battle nerves. So it's for certain that the engine stalled itself and the stall wasn't caused by locking the wheels under braking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyNevada Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I'm sure the wheels locked under braking, but generally does the engine stall this quick? It's just that all Toyota drivers have said that they have problems with the engine stalling mid corner or mid braking in this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I thought they had fixed it somewhat with the new enginge, but it seems to still be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyNevada Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Ott's car is fine, just a precautionary cooling system switch and ready to go again this evening, so no more SD runs.Edit: Never mind, already heading back to the SD stage, seems like it wasn't that bad as they thought.https://twitter.com/OttTanak/status/1047784797374959617/video/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Yeah I was just pulling into the service park when he was heading back out. They had all the front off after and gave it a good going over. All cars have left for ss1 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogani Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Wow. Rovanperäs pace is impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Yeah... If I was Malcolm Wilson I'd consider grabbing Kalle for 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Well that was absolutely awful. Clocaenog was ok, Brenig was a bit rough but it was enjoyable. Unfortunately someone had a very bad accident and we got red flagged. Penmachno was without a doubt the worst stage I’ve ever done, unbelievably rough and it broke the front suspension. We limped to slate mountain where we hit a rock and that was game over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F2CMaDMaXX Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 :(Sad day, rally is *very* hard on cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 F2CMaDMaXX said: :(Sad day, rally is *very* hard on cars. I can’t express how bad it was. I’ll get some in car footage up in the next few days. There was a whole lot of swearing! I finished penmachno winded with pains in my stomach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyDriven Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Went to watch dyfnant today before heading home and the speed of these cars still leaves me gobsmacked. First time my brother and sister have seen them live and they couldn’t believe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbtstt Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 RallyDriven said: Well that was absolutely awful. Clocaenog was ok, Brenig was a bit rough but it was enjoyable. Unfortunately someone had a very bad accident and we got red flagged. Penmachno was without a doubt the worst stage I’ve ever done, unbelievably rough and it broke the front suspension. We limped to slate mountain where we hit a rock and that was game over Damn, that explains why I didn't see you in Myherin.Fully agree with your comment about the speed of the cars. The R5's look quick, the latest WRCars are just incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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