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That Subaru is... awful. Just awful. I have no feeling whatsoever. It's either dead slow or horrible (and unpredictable) understeer. I simply can't push in that car. I love Sweden in the Evo, but the Subie was just horrible. I'm going to try some extra weird setups for next event just to make it even slightly enjoyable to drive.

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#TeamEvo FTW :D

Also, a note to myself: why the f you didn't do one spin less ffs... 5s... FIVE SECONDS...
End of the note.

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Dytut said:
That Subaru is... awful. Just awful. I have no feeling whatsoever. It's either dead slow or horrible (and unpredictable) understeer. I simply can't push in that car. I love Sweden in the Evo, but the Subie was just horrible. I'm going to try some extra weird setups for next event just to make it even slightly enjoyable to drive.
R4 Subaru? Keep in mind that its suspension is bugged and it's prone to bottoming out without warning.

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Porkhammer said:
R4 Subaru? Keep in mind that its suspension is bugged and it's prone to bottoming out without warning.
No wonder, when they changed it from a sedan to a Hatchback xD Its bottom is now in a different spot where it normally would be xD

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Dytut said:
That Subaru is... awful. Just awful. I have no feeling whatsoever. It's either dead slow or horrible (and unpredictable) understeer. I simply can't push in that car. I love Sweden in the Evo, but the Subie was just horrible. I'm going to try some extra weird setups for next event just to make it even slightly enjoyable to drive.
R4 Subaru? Keep in mind that its suspension is bugged and it's prone to bottoming out without warning.
Ah, that makes a bit sense. I got one off on a compression that usually isn't a problem, and some of the weirdness might be from that. I'll go full ride height for the next event and see what happens.

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Heeding Porkhammer's warnings, I went straight into the setup menu to jack up the ride height of the Scoobydoo, but it was already all the way up by default. That didn't help fix the bottoming out problem, let me tell you. So weird. If you hit the snowbanks sideways the rocker panels bounce off like they're rock hard, and sometimes it just sticks to the ground when landing an off-angle jump and instantly points in an unpredictable direction. I tried adjusting the setup to fix the random understeer I had in Monaco - loosening the front diff significantly, moving brake bias back, loosening front sway bar - and it helped a little, but still weird. I'm bad in Sweden anyways, so this isn't a super-scientific test. I suspect that Greece will be the make-or-break event for me. If I can't get it feeling good there, I'm probably never going to get comfortable with it.

It feels like the same problem the Escort Cosworth has, but it's really a bigger problem with the game. It just completely craps itself whenever a part of the car that isn't the tires touches the terrain. This is by far my least favorite thing about this game. I really, really hope they can fix this for the next game.

Anyways, the event went badly, with at least one major spin/crash/roll on every stage. The weather towards the end made things worse. There were glimmers of hope though, some corners felt great, but most felt inconsistent and weird. I'm always grumpy after Sweden. Bring on Greece, I need some sunshine!

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Well, I surprised myself in the second half of Sweden. I don't really like the slower stages, yet they seem to suit me better. 56 seconds behind after SS4, 55 seconds behind at the end. Go figure... And that was not without mistakes, aka at least one spin and ploughing through snowwalls regularly. So maybe I will be able to challenge the big three in the near future...

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I thought about some more relaxed training sessions, I have to admit. Without any frozen meat included.

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So, due to my PC's unreliability, gonna actually write a half-way report! .. Slight one, at least.
1st stage - nothing to comment on, drove fast for the most part
2nd stage - slightly tricky, not a sub 6 min time due to PC slightly showing
3rd stage - kinda forgot already due to how unusual 4th stage was, but, should be a 'solid' time
4th stage - this is where i went into "bring it home" mode due to more noticeable stuttering issues, multiplied by me REALLY disliking Sunset saturation on such a fast stage. Not even predicting the time loss here, hope my 2nd half compensates for this single stage... >_< 

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Started the 2nd half like i ended my first half... OOF.

Only noticeable things to mention - Night Stage - forgot to brake in my favourite half for a net loss of 20 seconds.
And Pomona Ekrixi - i improved, barely, upon my temporary WR.
... I lost Greece of all places. :/

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Well then, time to try to get the Subaru to drive somewhat. This time I just set the front to as soft as possible, and the back to almost as soft as possible. Then I set both front and back suspension to as soft as possible. 
End result? A right old sponge of a car, but my end goal of making it predictable was achieved! Now I could actually get some kind of feel for the grip levels and much less random behaviour. 

SS1 and 2 I was pretty much getting used to the car. Had a small off on SS1 which cost me a bit more than I wanted.
SS3and 4 I kept up with Snaky, which was surprising me. 
SS5 I took 10 seconds off Snaky since he was off.
SS6 Snaky took back those 10 seconds, but I'm kind of satisfied what that when you set a WR time :-)
SS7 was my stage off horribleness. Turned in slightly too much on a corner and touched the rock wall, which threw me off the road. Not too bad, so I tried to claw my way back up to the road and not reset, but just as I had spent 10+ seconds and was just on the verge of getting back on the road I beached the car on the side. So had to reset anyways.. Yeay, there goes 40 seconds :-(
SS8 was solid, lost 2 seconds to Snaky.



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Dytut said:

SS7 was my stage off horribleness. Turned in slightly too much on a corner and touched the rock wall, which threw me off the road. Not too bad, so I tried to claw my way back up to the road and not reset, but just as I had spent 10+ seconds and was just on the verge of getting back on the road I beached the car on the side. So had to reset anyways.. Yeay, there goes 40 seconds :-(

Sounds frustrating. By the way, did CM change something about resets? I remember losing only 15 seconds combined (not counting the time loss while going off and accelerating from zero again) when resetting, meaning if you spent 5 seconds in the wilderness, you got an additional 10 seconds. But lately I experienced the same like you - 15 seconds lost off the road, trying to get back, and then 15 seconds with an automatic reset.

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SS1 was interesting. Right near the start I had a discussion with the titanium bush about why my car looks like it hit a truck with the front left side when I just hit (and got stopped) by a bush...

Also, SS7 seems to be the "crap" stage this time. I literally by milimeteres went off on the edge near the last split and... the car just slid off, stopped on the titanium bush and would not crawl back up no matter what. So 15s (trying to crawl back up for 10s and 5s penalty) lost plus the extra for starting from 0km/h naturally. In short, about 20s lost.

Oh well, could've been worse. This is Greece after, it's only natural that @Snaky115 will be engaging the "Porky" mode xD

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Hmpf. After three stages, the game froze when trying to download the leaderboard. Now I'm back to SS2. Great...

Note to myself: Don't look at the leaderboard after every single stage. Won't do you any good anyways.

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I started skipping the leaderboard after i lost 6 stages of progress due to it glitching out once... -_- It does require mashing the skip button a little, just for safety. Though i still get a forever visible "F2 show profile" in the bottom left if i skip too late, even during races.. :/

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I also used to skip it after losing a complete league event (no time to do it again before the time ran out), but lately I looked at the leaderboard a few times and it always worked. Not this time, obviously. So it's back to hitting return promptly after my times are uploaded. Slightly annoying, but no biggie.

Greece will have to wait until tomorrow.


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Closer, but no cigar.

After SS3, I was 1 or 2 seconds faster than on my first botched up attempt yesterday. So no real advantage here. Like Sweden, the second half of the rally was better in comparison to the leaders, but it did not necessarily feel like it. I had no resets or big crashes, but some mistakes here and there. The Mitsu constantly felt too big and heavy for the narrow stages and sometimes slow out of hairpins. Maybe my gearing was not ideal.

Well, I'm getting closer to the podium. Maybe Germany or Wales - in Finland I will just try to come home without major crashes or punctures.

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I read @Dytut's post before racing, and tried out his suggestion of softening the suspension. I didn't go all the way soft, and I left the dampers slightly firmer than the springs. I also loosened the front diff and moved the brake bias back like I did in Sweden. The results...

It felt SO MUCH BETTER! Seriously, it was actually predictable! It still felt huge and heavy, and the softness made it feel a bit like the tires were marshmallows, but there was no understeer, and it turned in consistently! At the halfway service I stiffened the dampers slightly, I don't know if that helped much, I can't say I noticed a difference. But still, that's a hell of a lot more progress than I made in Sweden. Sweden was miserable and really pissed me off, so I was worried that I wouldn't enjoy Greece (my favorite!). Thank you, @Dytut, you saved my rally!

I was still slow (last place #represent), but I was consistently between 10 and 15 seconds off on every short stage, which is MUCH better than before. On stage 7, I landed on the edge of the road after a jump and got launched into Albania, which threw off my mojo a bit and I ended up going off again later on. I also went off (but didn't reset) at the end of stage 8, but I was far enough behind at that point that there was no way I'd be out of last. Regardless, and I can't believe I'm saying this, I actually enjoyed this car. in Greece. It's amazing how much of a difference that made.

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BadD0g said:
I read @Dytut's post before racing, and tried out his suggestion of softening the suspension. I didn't go all the way soft, and I left the dampers slightly firmer than the springs. I also loosened the front diff and moved the brake bias back like I did in Sweden. The results...

It felt SO MUCH BETTER! Seriously, it was actually predictable! It still felt huge and heavy, and the softness made it feel a bit like the tires were marshmallows, but there was no understeer, and it turned in consistently! At the halfway service I stiffened the dampers slightly, I don't know if that helped much, I can't say I noticed a difference. But still, that's a hell of a lot more progress than I made in Sweden. Sweden was miserable and really pissed me off, so I was worried that I wouldn't enjoy Greece (my favorite!). Thank you, @Dytut, you saved my rally!

I was still slow (last place #represent), but I was consistently between 10 and 15 seconds off on every short stage, which is MUCH better than before. On stage 7, I landed on the edge of the road after a jump and got launched into Albania, which threw off my mojo a bit and I ended up going off again later on. I also went off (but didn't reset) at the end of stage 8, but I was far enough behind at that point that there was no way I'd be out of last. Regardless, and I can't believe I'm saying this, I actually enjoyed this car. in Greece. It's amazing how much of a difference that made.
Glad that it worked for you :-) I'm going helluva soft for Finland aswell, think I'll try to stiffen up the anti roll bars a bit to try and get a bit better feel in the corners. But once that damn car was predictable it was actually enjoyable to drive. Now it if only could go fast aswell...

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Well, that was an unfortunate retirement in the last split of the night stage. Then again - i had crashed 4 times on fifth stage as is and additional five on night stage. Somewhat pre-tuned suspension  was working... for the first half. Completely capitulated when 2nd half started. Hm.

EDIT: That was a huge typo, two thoughts at once mixed both together kind of typo, eesh

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That was one of my best performances in Finland to date. I still don't have the outright speed of Ryu, Snaky and probably Arete, but I was much more competitive than I feared. I lost only a few seconds per stage, apart from SS3, where I had one crash and one spin, and then on SS8, where I had a big big crash shortly before the end of the stage.

The Mitsus handling - mostly default setup - felt just right this time and I got into a nice flow, especially in the second half of the event. Not so bad for my usually weakest rally.

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