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I was part of this almost starting league race and I can tell you that atleast 5 cars were desynced, which led to some interesting event in qualy and in the formation lap.

Basically cars were flying, getting stuck on eachother or just straight up drove through cars like it was ghosted.

Personally I find it kind of ridiculous that this happened after a patch to fix cosmetics in the game.

If the patch doest get reverted or if we are not going to get a quick fix for this then this game will be completly done for the remainder of its life, which for me is actually quite sad cause we still had a lot of races planned for this season.

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Nice fix, nice Update. You actually killed now the rest of this Game. The Server arent work anymore. Every leauge I watched today canceled there Races.

Guys really, this Game is trash, desyncs, terrible physics, terrible rules and tracklimits and now you killed every Server so no online lobby worked. What the hell are you doing all the day? If i would do my job like, they would had kicked me after the first week.....

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I dont know why you spend time in april (!) to bring out a new patch to the old game (instead of working on the new one) which completely breaks it again.

It is impossible to drive online now. The same problems as last year where we already had to stop all leagues for like 6 weeks. This made us lose so many drivers who lost their motivation.

If this is gonna take longer than very few days the same will happen at this game. Nobody is gonna find motivation to come back and Im really not sure how many of them would buy the new game then.

With your decisions you are killing league racing and their communities.

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Exactly the same things happened with us, cars flew around although people were still driving.

I hope that it will be fixed quickly and that everything will be better with EA. (It can only get better)
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After the Patch the game is unplayable like a few month ago....

All cars are Desynced, flew around get stucked on each other and other crazy ****!!! All our league Races are Canceled for this week!!!

I cant understand how it is possible to destroy a game like this with a 250mb patch thats for cosmetics basicly?!

SO PLS CODEMASTERS JUST PATCH IT BACK OR DO ANY OTHER HOT FIX SO WE CAN RACE AGAIN AND FINISH THE SEASON !!!!!

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45 minutes ago, Badmayhem said:

Have ya tried clearing you cache?

Also nobody tested lobbies before their races........what?

How bout what platform your playing on?

In my best Barry voice........You have to file a bug report.

We are on PC and as for a bug report simply join any online multiplayer lobby right now and you will get desynced with atleast 2 others.

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1 hour ago, Badmayhem said:

Have ya tried clearing you cache?

Also nobody tested lobbies before their races........what?

How bout what platform your playing on?

In my best Barry voice........You have to file a bug report.

cant hear this anymore... bug report is a joke, ego bumper drops random, since the last game. They never fixed it completly. 

 

we need a hot fix and start praying that it will come fast 

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1 hour ago, Fsks100 said:

We are on PC and as for a bug report simply join any online multiplayer lobby right now and you will get desynced with atleast 2 others.

 

1 hour ago, AiRTicox3 said:

cant hear this anymore... bug report is a joke, ego bumper drops random, since the last game. They never fixed it completly. 

 

we need a hot fix and start praying that it will come fast 

You guys do what ya thinks best...

Good Luck friends.

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Please roll back the patch and spend your time for the new game. Impossible to play online. No matter which league or community. Not just the desync-problems. Also other bugs. The Main Menu also stucks. When you try to select your driver (or something else) you get some bad lags. When you try to join an excisting and already started lobby (Qualifying) and select the driver you see the Spectator-Menu. Impossible to select a Setup or even tyres. But you can drive in the spectators view. Awesome!! Not.

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  • A detailed description of the issue.
    • Desync issues are back like we had them some time ago.
    • Multiple cars are desynced to each other, resulting in cars driving through and slamming each other off the track since they can't see some of their competitors.
    • Desynced cars have the red cross next to their name.
    • We tried 3 unranked & 1 league-lobby with 2 hosts, each had multiple cars desynced. I also know of at least two other leagues which had to stop their league races yesterday, so everyone playing online is affected heavily by this issue.
  • Report Code
    • XMGV-RJKT-SXVC-RRMGimage.png.2f5caa2d2b0d3150edabb31b2b040f74.png
    • AJAC-DAHR-GPSG-RVMG image.png.a17de0fa4d588c803908abd5354d645b.png
    • No report-codes known for the other lobbys, the first report code is from the same lobby as the clip below. 
  • Platform?
    • PC
  • Game-mode?
    • Online Multiplayer; Unranked & League Lobbys
  • [ONLINE] The amount of players in your session? If you know the players forum username, please tag as many people who were in your session here.
  • [ONLINE] Were you the host?
    • No, multiple lobbys with different hosts. I was part of the lobby from the second report code.
  • What troubleshooting have you tried? Please list everything you tried.
    • We tried creating a new unranked lobby, since that didn't help we tried a league lobby which had the same massive desync issues.
  • Any screenshots or video of the issue? Remember to add as unlisted if video via a third party. 
  • How do you make the problem happen? Please add a step-by-step guide here so we can replicate and get reported as quick as possible.
    • Just create any type of online-lobby, fill it up with drivers and you should have the desync issue right away for multiple cars.
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Thanks for the excellent report. Can you ensure the following:

  • Port forwarding has been set up correctly
  • No VPN's are being used
  • FIrewall exceptions are completed
  • Have you had any new members to the league join up?
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***** thats not ja port forwarding VPn Whatever problem the problem is the programmer are not good programmer no Quality Testing team for the patches 

No Community Test Players 

iam angry iam done with codemasters a child can better programm this...

 

F1 need a new engine !  and Ded server! P2P in year 2022

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1 minute ago, BarryBL said:

Thanks for the excellent report. Can you ensure the following:

  • Port forwarding has been set up correctly
  • No VPN's are being used
  • FIrewall exceptions are completed
  • Have you had any new members to the league join up?

Hi Barry,

 

I can say for sure that no VPN's were used, also most drivers which experienced the issue are not new members but raced in our league for a pretty long time now. There was just a single new member with us yesterday, but he had no desync and also he wasn't the host. Our second lobby had not a single new member. 

None of them had issues before the patch, since 1.18 all lobbys are affected. The impacted drivers seem to be mostly random, since from race to race it was not the same drivers experiencing the desync.

I doubt that everyone setup port forwarding & firewall exceptions manually and also I can't check that for all members.

What I can assure you is that all of them were racing without any desyncs before the patch. Same for the other affected leagues I heard of.

 

Not sure if I can provide some valuable data regarding the Firewall & port forwarding, is this essential for further investigation? And if so, what could I provide to you in detail? I might be able to get some data from one of the "desynced" players, if this helps.

I'm confident you can replicate this though, since it was an issue that appeared in every test lobby.

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We had the same Problem like @MisterJohnny420

 

  • A detailed description of the issue.
    • Desync issues are back like we had them some time ago.
    • Multiple cars are desynced to each other, resulting in cars driving through and slamming each other off the track since they can't see some of their competitors.
    • Desynced cars have the red cross next to their name.
    • We tried 4 league-lobby with 2 hosts, each had multiple cars desynced.
    • everyone playing online is affected heavily by this issue.
  • Report Code
    • will follow
  • Platform?
    • PC
  • Game-mode?
    • Online Multiplayer & League Lobbys
  • [ONLINE] The amount of players in your session? If you know the players forum username, please tag as many people who were in your session here.
    • 20 players + 2 spectators
  • [ONLINE] Were you the host?
    • No
  • What troubleshooting have you tried? Please list everything you tried.
    • We tried creating a new unranked lobby with different Hosts -> massive desync issues every time.
  • Any screenshots or video of the issue? Remember to add as unlisted if video via a third party. 
    • will follow
  • How do you make the problem happen? Please add a step-by-step guide here so we can replicate and get reported as quick as possible.
    • Just create any type of online-lobby, fill it up with drivers and you should have the desync issue right away for multiple cars.

 

@BarryBL:

Thanks for the excellent report. Can you ensure the following:

  • Port forwarding has been set up correctly  ->  yes
  • No VPN's are being used  -> yes, no VPN
  • FIrewall exceptions are completed  -> yes
  • Have you had any new members to the league join up?  -> no

So, we all change nothing, but the bug/problem is back. thats 100% the (bad) patch from monday 😞

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6 minutes ago, Gagarott said:

***** thats not ja port forwarding VPn Whatever problem the problem is the programmer are not good programmer no Quality Testing team for the patches 

No Community Test Players 

iam angry iam done with codemasters a child can better programm this...

 

F1 need a new engine !  and Ded server! P2P in year 2022

Just unneeded, warning will be issued.

To those who have responded providing the information, @MisterJohnny420 and @EukaIyptus, thank you. Will take your feedback to the devs. 

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Also, extra question, what day was your league races? Just we did have a small update on Monday for extra Content creator items, and will be a different build to 1.18 that you saw on Wednesday. 

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1 minute ago, BarryBL said:

Also, extra question, what day was your league races? Just we did have a small update on Monday for extra Content creator items, and will be a different build to 1.18 that you saw on Wednesday. 

It was the ~200MB patch yesterday, no issues before.

We raced yesterday evening.

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1 minute ago, MisterJohnny420 said:

It was the ~200MB patch yesterday, no issues before.

Solid copy, thank you. Just to confirm, racing Friday, if you did so, was fine. I raced Friday afternoon in a league (so same format) and experience was fine and as expected.

To keep you updated, I've cast the net out to the social team to get their feedback on this issue and what they have seen. Then I can present a full picture to the dev team

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4 hours ago, BarryBL said:

Also, extra question, what day was your league races? Just we did have a small update on Monday for extra Content creator items, and will be a different build to 1.18 that you saw on Wednesday. 

We have a Friday practice race and a Monday (8pm UK) league race, containing most (17/20) of the same people. 

Friday was absolutely perfect, as it has been since the desync patch a while ago. Monday (last night - post patch) we had the exact same experience as above. 

I'll look through the VODs tonight to do a full bug report, but we also tried three hosts and had various desyncs per host with some people impacted on all three, others on one or two. No VPNs are used. 

If there's anything I can do to get more info for you, just ask and I can get all 20 drivers to give me answers pretty quickly. 

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Es ist so unfassbar, dass man es nicht hinbekommt, diese Desync-Probleme dauerhaft in den Griff zu bekommen! 
Die komplette Liga musste bei F1 2021 einmal 6 Wochen ziemlich am Anfang des Games aussetzen und jetzt habt ihr diese Probleme wieder!
Schafft diese Spieler-zu-Spieler-Verbindung endlich ab! es ist einfach unspielbar geworden! 
So werdet ihr nicht mehr lange alle Spieler halten können! 
Seht es ein Projekt F1 Codemasters ist kurz vor dem Scheitern!

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6 minutes ago, Lycr0n said:

Es ist so unfassbar, dass man es nicht hinbekommt, diese Desync-Probleme dauerhaft in den Griff zu bekommen! 
Die komplette Liga musste bei F1 2021 einmal 6 Wochen ziemlich am Anfang des Games aussetzen und jetzt habt ihr diese Probleme wieder!
Schafft diese Spieler-zu-Spieler-Verbindung endlich ab! es ist einfach unspielbar geworden! 
So werdet ihr nicht mehr lange alle Spieler halten können! 
Seht es ein Projekt F1 Codemasters ist kurz vor dem Scheitern!

If you could, write it in English

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Topics merged.

For players affected, we understand and empathise the issues experienced. However, following the lead of @MisterJohnny420, @EukaIyptus and others and please complete a report like they have so I have as much information as possible to take to the dev team. 

For those who need the report template:

 

We also need ALL of the information below. We recommend copying this and filling it out with the questions alongside it so CM staff and other users can see the problems you are having.

1.       A description of the issue. Please include any error codes here.

2.       What version of the game you are using (Shown on the start screen in the bottom left corner of the screen)

3.       Game-mode?

4.       Are you able to recreate the issue? If so, please include recreation steps on how you encountered this issue.

5.       How often do you see this problem? Is it the only time or does it always happen?

6.       Have you tried any troubleshooting? We recommend the steps here as a starting point for any issues. Please let us know what troubleshooting methods you have tried while creating this post.

7.       Any accessories you are using (gamepad, wheel etc)

8.       Any screenshots or video of the issue? If the video is long, please include a timestamp for when the issue appears

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@BarryBL I inquire in the highest respect - but please rollback from this patch - NOW, not tomorrow, not in two weeks, now!

It's not depending to different settings (firewall/vpn etc), since the last small patch every league races since Monday needed to be cancelled - currently every lobby is desynced. It's not due to individual players settings, it relates to every player/any lobby. Please rollback the patch and then go into troubleshooting with the devs. Nobody needs the changes from the last small patch. There are many discussions in all the leagues chats right now if the current season should be stopped as we experienced couple of months ago - so please just roll back and we can survive.
I can only agree with the previous speakers. Stop making any changes to the single player, no one cares. Before you add any liveries or other offline stuff completely late, just take care of one thing - that the multiplayer lobbies work properly.

Large groups that want to play F1 2021 out of passion in league races, suffer completely through Codemasters unnecessary updates, which are felt to have gone through no QA. 
Sorry for the hard words - but that's how it feels.

Cheers, sLydon

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10 minutes ago, sLydonTTV said:

@BarryBL I inquire in the highest respect - but please rollback from this patch - NOW, not tomorrow, not in two weeks, now!

It's not depending to different settings (firewall/vpn etc), since the last small patch every league races since Monday needed to be cancelled - currently every lobby is desynced. It's not due to individual players settings, it relates to every player/any lobby. Please rollback the patch and then go intro troubleshooting with the devs. Nobody needs the changes from the last small patch. There are many discussions in all the leagues chats right now if the current season should be stopped as we experienced couple of months ago - so please just roll back and we can survive.
I can only agree with the previous speakers. Stop making any changes to the single player, no one cares. Before you add any liveries or other offline stuff completely late, just take care of one thing - that the multiplayer lobbies work properly.

Large groups that want to play F1 2021 out of passion in league races, suffer completely through Codemasters unnecessary updates, which are felt to have gone through no QA. 
Sorry for the hard words - but that's how it feels.

Cheers, sLydon

Could you please send examples of the desynchronisation videos you are talking about?

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5 minutes ago, Pawel567 said:

Could you please send examples of the desynchronisation videos you are talking about?

Sorry, but you can not call us, the users and buyers of the game, to collect data and recordings. I understand as a system engineer at a software developer that you need bug reports to start reproductions. But Monday's patch has mercilessly destroyed the whole online experience again.

Please just rollback the patch from Monday, before that it was - as far as acceptable - not bug-free but at least no strong persistent DeSyncs. Please rollback and then in the "new" version internally simply start multiplayer lobbies.

There is a Twitch VOD from yesterday, where a bigger league event was cancelled after 3x times lobby restart. Still many DeSyncs.
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1 minute ago, sLydonTTV said:

Sorry, but you can not call us, the users and buyers of the game, to collect data and recordings. I understand as a system engineer at a software developer that you need bug reports to start reproductions. But Monday's patch has mercilessly destroyed the whole online experience again.

Please just rollback the patch from Monday, before that it was - as far as acceptable - not bug-free but at least no strong persistent DeSyncs. Please rollback and then in the "new" version internally simply start multiplayer lobbies.

Was more a question from @Pawel567 there, and I empathise your frustration. 

But if you have any videos etc, it would be most helpful. You have 'TTV' in your name, did you stream it?

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Just now, BarryBL said:

Was more a question from @Pawel567 there, and I empathise your frustration. 

But if you have any videos etc, it would be most helpful. You have 'TTV' in your name, did you stream it?

I've edited my last post and added a VOD from another league event yesterday, which was cancelled after 3x times lobby restart. 

I'm going into a race in 3 hours - the league where I'm racing today decided to try. I'll stream this on my channel twitch.tv/sLydon  

I'm pretty sure they will cancel it later or we will have at least 2-3 cars desynced.

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1 minute ago, sLydonTTV said:

I've edited my last post and added a VOD from another league event yesterday, which was cancelled after 3x times lobby restart. 

I'm going into a race in 3 hours - the league where I'm racing today decided to try. I'll stream this on my channel twitch.tv/sLydon  

I'm pretty sure they will cancel it later or we will have at least 2-3 cars desynced.

Thanks. Get a clip, please add it here. Helps me take as much evidence as possible to the developers and help stress the importance. 

Got any timestamps from the stream please. 

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Thanks. Get a clip, please add it here. Helps me take as much evidence as possible to the developers and help stress the importance. 

Thanks for your effort @BarryBL , even if I don't see why a clip of a DeSync should be helpful for the devs. Just head into online lobbies and try to play a bit, they will recognize it.

Do you not see a chance, just to rollback the patch from Monday and then start troubleshooting?

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8 minutes ago, sLydonTTV said:

Thanks for your effort @BarryBL , even if I don't see why a clip of a DeSync should be helpful for the devs. Just head into online lobbies and try to play a bit, they will recognize it.

Do you not see a chance, just to rollback the patch from Monday and then start troubleshooting?

Little more complicated than that, as from our numbers, Playstation isn't affected and we have very fleeting and unconfirmed reports on Xbox. 

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6 hours ago, BarryBL said:

Also, extra question, what day was your league races? Just we did have a small update on Monday for extra Content creator items, and will be a different build to 1.18 that you saw on Wednesday. 

It was on monday the patch day yesterday.

 

Edit: oops forgot to scroll down, sorry if this replay was late.

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HI everyone,

Some extra information please if possible. Please confirm:

  • Platform you are racing on
  • How many people in your lobby when this first happened.
  • Did anything unique happen beforehand? Did someone retire, disconnect, crash? Was there a SC?

From our information, Playstation users are not affected at the moment, and Xbox could be very small reports. Knowing how many of you are on each platform will be relly helpful in identifying whether this is platform specific, or a wider issue.

Should I receive enough responses here, I will run a PC session on Thursday afternoon to experience it first-hand, and get some additional capture covering the issue. 

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1 hour ago, BarryBL said:

Thanks. Get a clip, please add it here. Helps me take as much evidence as possible to the developers and help stress the importance. 

Got any timestamps from the stream please. 

Sorry @BarryBL, the league race where I would have attend today was canceled. Also this league decided to suspend the operation because of the strong DeSync problems until a hotfix or rollback is coming. It's really sad what a big impact these buggy patches have on all the players who plan their weekdays around league races.

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4 minutes ago, BarryBL said:

HI everyone,

Some extra information please if possible. Please confirm:

  • Platform you are racing on
  • How many people in your lobby when this first happened.
  • Did anything unique happen beforehand? Did someone retire, disconnect, crash? Was there a SC?

From our information, Playstation users are not affected at the moment, and Xbox could be very small reports. Knowing how many of you are on each platform will be relly helpful in identifying whether this is platform specific, or a wider issue.

Should I receive enough responses here, I will run a PC session on Thursday afternoon to experience it first-hand, and get some additional capture covering the issue. 

Platform:

-> PC

How many people:

-> 20 + 2 spectators

Did anything unique happen beforehand?

-> Nothing special, desync since race start in all lobbies we tested.

(The same for all lobbies we tested with multiple hosts)

 

 

Edit: We actually lost drivers from the first lobby to the last, so it did not matter if it was 20+2, 19+2 or 18+2 drivers

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2 minutes ago, BarryBL said:

 

  • Platform you are racing on
  • How many people in your lobby when this first happened.
  • Did anything unique happen beforehand? Did someone retire, disconnect, crash? Was there a SC? 

PC

- First lobby 20 people,  Second lobby  20 people, third lobby 11 people. 

- Yes, we installed Patch 1.18 and dared to play online, like starting a race, like we all did the days before the patch. 

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4 minutes ago, sLydonTTV said:

Sorry @BarryBL, the league race where I would have attend today was canceled. Also this league decided to suspend the operation because of the strong DeSync problems until a hotfix or rollback is coming. It's really sad what a big impact these buggy patches have on all the players who plan their weekdays around league races.

If you could add the information I've asked for, will really help the understanding of platforms affected and can help us prove/disprove whether its widespread or certain platforms affected. This is critical to begin troubleshooting and understanding the problems

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I can say for sure that everyone on Steam is affected.

Probably not as helpful as confirmations from everyone, but every single league I know that raced yesterday had these issues.

Haven't heard anything from our Xbox/PS department, so no information to share for the consoles from my side so far. If I get feedback from our other plattforms I'll let you know. 

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